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    In the case of shells, the problem isn’t money, it’s lack of production capacity. Even the mighty USA, owner of the largest military-industrial complex in the world, can only produce 28,000 rounds of 155mm per month – less than 10pc of what Ukraine needs – and this with its factories on 24-hour operation.

    Maybe libs should read this.

    Who am I kidding, they’ll still call anything that says the west isn’t the best Russian propaganda or whatever.

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      Hear me out, the part where it says “While Russia’s might grows” seems pretty propaganda to me. Those poor morons are being cut off from world trade and their shell production capacity is still below their own demands in the Ukraine war even after they ramped up production 2.5x and produce 7x as much as the USA.

      Plus, their plane jamming and other attacks on EU nations they’re not even at war with doesn’t seem like responsible foreign policy in the slightest. Even ISIS-K is invading Russia and more of their neighbors keep joining NATO.

      It’s the opposite of growing in power, they’re about to fuck around and find out.

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        One of the wealthiest nations in the world which won’t even provide free school meals to children: “we need to cut welfare and spend more on war!”

        Libs: those damn Ruskies are gonna find out now, fuck yeah!

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          Lmao, does talking about the flaws of a random nation make you feel better about the militaristic dictatorship losing a war they started over mineral resources to a tiny neighbor?

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        It’s the opposite of growing in power, they’re about to fuck around and find out.

        COPE HARDER, NATO bootlicker.

        copium

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        You realize that “world trade” is not just Europe/NA?

        Tho you’re right on it being propaganda, it is fascist propaganda to push for more military spending in Europe.

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    I mean the EU is pretty straightforward about their members having to do austerity policies the next years. I think Belgium has to cut like 30+ billion euro. Our public systems are already falling apart due to lack of funds. I expect a mass call to privatisation across the entire EU in the coming years. US 2.0.

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            I dunno we must not act helpless. Our unions have over 3 million members. That’s over 60% of all working people. They can really organize a lot of people in a short time.

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              I’m not suggesting acting helpless. But if they can breakup the benefits and gains the unions won in past victories while the unions exist, then it does suggest that either they can break the unions themselves or they can render them so weak that it won’t even matter if they exist.

              That does mean people need to organize and take action, but the best moment to do that for non-revolutionary unions is probably before the gains are lost.

              Otherwise, European unions can end up in a similar situation to unions in the US.

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      How much more you reckon before we finally accept we need to divest from the yanks?

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        European countries don’t really get to choose. It’s a blood pact they signed when they chose to be American proxies against the barbaric asiatics rather seeking peaceful coexistence and redevlopment after WW2.

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    Haha remember when you had to go to niche fascist websites to read about how The West has fallen into decadence and the underclasses must suffer and die so that we can rebuild our glorious might to defeat the omnipresent Enemy?

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    looks at picture at the top of the article… noticing that all of the places where there would usually be a patch are blank

    Hey! Somebody got smart enough to ask the Ukrainian soldiers getting their pictures taken to take off all their (questionable) patches…

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    LMFAO “while Russia’s might grows” bro is delusional.

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        They can’t even win against a small nation like Ukraine after a drawn out 2 year long war.

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          A weird way to say that Russia is currently winning a proxy war against all of NATO as the article I linked clearly explains. I guess if you had any reading comprehension you wouldn’t be making these imbecilic comments in the first place though.

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            Them winning has yet to be seen, but using your homeland’s full military force to win a proxy war isn’t exactly a flex, either.

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              Doesn’t sound like you have much respect or hope for Ukraine. It had one of the strongest militaries in the world and has been supported by the world’s most militarily advanced countries before and during the war. It’s not like, let’s say, a war against farmers armed with AKs living in rural communities in a desert, the mountains, or a jungle – you know, the kinds of enemies NATO/allies take 20 years to lose against.

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            I think Ukraine’s 36 Million compared to Russia’s 147 Million puts things pretty well into perspective.

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              Alright, so not so much small as smaller than Russia. Of course that means there are only 10 or so nations that aren’t small. How absurd it is then for NATO to be losing to tiny Russia…

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                Ukraine isn’t a part of NATO, lol. If they were, the USA would be on Russia Shores from the Pacific, and Russia would be invaded by the other 5 NATO members who share a border with them at a minimum, potentially including Turkiye from across the Sea who alone have a top 10 standing for military and they have already backed Ukraine’s membership approval.

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                  I’m talking about the article. The United Kingdom isn’t Ukraine, and yet they’re talking about how they, the rest of NATO and Ukraine are losing to Russia at arms production.

                  Though the lessons translate to a hot war too. If you don’t have bombs to lob, you have to stop lobbing bombs.

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      Why do we even bother talking to these people… like this one is clearly not in lemmygrad on good faith

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        Because they’re bots and a bot administrator whose full time job is to shill for dictatorships.