some obligatory memes

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    8 months ago

    Still reading the article, just some notes off the top of my head:

    Its famously industrious workforce is shrinking,

    Chinese production is now more automated than America’s

    history’s wildest property boom has turned to bust

    COVID accelerated the process of course but the five year plan accounted for this downturn because they recognize that you can only build so many planned cities and high rise apartments before you don’t need any more

    and the global system of free trade that China used to get richer is disintegrating.

    China has been very deliberately cultivating an alternative economic bloc that isn’t controlled by the American Navy

    • Beaver [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      history’s wildest property boom has turned to bust

      Western “analysts” can’t comprehend the idea of pre-planning a couple decades of building ahead of the growth curve, and then winding down that building when it’s no longer needed. Their heads can only imagine market based solutions, producing such highly efficient outcomes as the current housing situation in the anglosphere.

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      Its famously industrious workforce is shrinking,

      China has 20-30 years of an expanding, urban, highly-educated workforce. If America’s government was as competent as China’s, they could hope to compete in a few decades when trends reverse and that shrinking population actually starts to hurt, but since it’s not…

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    7 months ago

    Flashbacks to my 2013 university poli-sci courses where the professor and guest lecturers confidently predicted a collapse of the Chinese economy in 2-3 years

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    Blending techno-utopianism, central planning and an obsession with security

    “These three pigs sure have an obsession with security for some reason.”

    • The Wolf
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    Xi Jinping: “People should have housing and should be able to afford living in their houses.”

    Ten Thousand Western Op Eds: “This guarantees the inevitable destruction of the Chinese Economy.”

    Compared with 12 months ago, let alone the go-go years, the mood in China is dour. Although industrial production perked up in March, consumers are depressed, deflation lurks and many entrepreneurs are disillusioned. Behind the angst lie deeper fears about China’s vulnerabilities. It is forecast to lose 20% of its workforce by 2050. A crisis in the property industry, which drives a fifth of gdp, will take years to fix. It will hurt cash-strapped local governments that relied on land sales for revenues and flourishing real estate for growth. Relations with America are steadier, as a phone call between Mr Xi and President Joe Biden this week attested. But they remain fragile. Chinese officials are convinced that America will restrict more Chinese imports and penalise more Chinese firms, whoever wins the White House in November.

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    If AI was worth a fucking damn, I would love to see a LLM applied to this article relative to this absolute dick-sucking machine hagiography of the Saudi Line

    We’re getting into some weapon’s grade parenti-hands as Western economists shit themselves in fury at China while cumming enthusiastically at Saudi Arabia for engaging in the exact same state-centric economic planning strategies.

    Nevermind that the Saudis are being driven off a cliff by a 30-year-old Chud Gamer with a fetish for American mega-malls, while the Chinese are getting the benefit of the Immortal Science to inform their planning strategy. You would at least think a Free Market Spank Bank like The Economist would be able to draw a line between the two from a “Oh look! Command Economies!” high level perspective.

    • Greenleaf [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      And it’s all just vibes-based analysis. It’s not any deeper than “China is socialist, and since socialism doesn’t work and the free market is always more efficient than the government, anything that the CPC does other than unleash full capitalism is doomed to fail”.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Relations with America are steadier, as a phone call between Mr Xi and President Joe Biden this week attested. But they remain fragile. Chinese officials are convinced that America will restrict more Chinese imports and penalise more Chinese firms, whoever wins the White House in November.

      Why are the Chinese convinced Americans hate them? They’re acting as if the west is racist and capitalists complain about them

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    8 months ago

    This eschews the conventional path of a big consumer stimulus to reflate the economy (that’s the kind of ruse the decadent West resorts to).

    Uh, what are they talking about? The COVID checks? Because last I checked ALL of the ruse’s resorted to by the decadent West have been supply side handouts totally what, nearly a trillion now?

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      To The Economist, “consumers” are all the petite boug business owners that the government gave like a trillion in free money “loans” to.