• amio@kbin.social
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    Well, at least people were saved from terrible tra*ma by cl*verly h*ding the “u” in “ab*sive”. Can’t tell that’s what it says at all…

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      Oh this word might hurt someone, lets skewer it so not only does it bring all the focus to the word itself, but forces people to think about the word specifically and how big of a deal it should be!

      Whoever did this really needs a smack upside the head

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        Trigger warning: the word tra*ma

        I like to think of myself as pretty supportive, but is there really any evidence that specifically reading the word “trauma” is traumatic? And if so, is the removal of the “U” really a solution to that?

        Because it seems like asterixing one letter is more of a performative measure to signify ones support for the overall cause rather than an actually means to reduce suffering.

        How close can the “U” be before it starts to upset someone?

        “Tra u ma”

        Uuuuuuuuuuuuu Tra ma Uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

        I don’t believe that someone who is affected by the word “trauma” would view the above examples with a complete non-reaction because the U is vaguely obfuscated.

        Like, we can agree that the asterix is just a display of consideration to someone, rather than an actually effective measure, right?

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          It’s actually counterproductive! People who want to screen stuff about abuse from their internet experience can set up filters. Those filters are broken when you censor the relevant words!

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            Yeah but does that matter if using the asterisk helps those not the victim of abuse feel better about their day? They are the real victims 🤣

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              If the word triggers some symptom, then why would that same word, “hidden” by a trick that wouldn’t faze a six-year-old, be any less harmful?

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      An alternative explanation is that sites like TikT*k are trying to please advertisers by reducing coverage of videos that talk about sensitive topics like trauma, suicide, and death, and that behaviour has been blindly copied by zoomers who are getting their primary internet exposure from Tiktok.

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    I agree with the other three, but this is wrong about “narcissists”. “Narcissistic Personality Disorder” is a diagnosis, but calling someone a “narcissist” isn’t. That’s just a description of someone’s personality. It’s much older than the diagnosis, going back to the Greek myth of Narcissus. The diagnosis doesn’t get to co-opt the much older usage.

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      Yeah it’s just the higher stage of selfishness. You can be selfish, egoistic, etc. Then you reach Narcissus level, or worst, the pond/lake level.

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      You’re not speaking ancient Greek, mate, you’re speaking English, and your use is informed by the history of the English language. The use of Nar******t in pop culture is largely informed by Christopher Lach’s 1979 book The Culture Of Narcissism, which made the argument that contemporary American culture was normalising clinical NPD. You didn’t learn to call people nar******ts by reading ancient Greek myths, and I know that for a fact because the ancient greeks didn’t go around using the word. To them, it was just some guy’s name. You learned the word from someone who learned the word from someone who learned the word from Lasch’s book, and from the ableist books that came after. Your folk etymology explanation that the pop culture use comes directly from Greek is missing a lot of important and relevant intermediate steps.

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    According to my licensed psychiatrist, trauma is anything hurtful or harmful that impacts your behavior or patterns of thinking. The clinical term is actually more broad than the general public conception of the word.

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      even in medical terms (not a doctor) getting a tooth pulled or scraping your knee is trauma.

      For all people posture that “the internet overreacts” they also overreact to the so-called overreaction

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    1. Take a learners dictionary and pair it with an advanced one.
    2. Pic some controversial words.
    3. Compare verbs against nouns, nouns against adjectives so the definitions aren’t actually the same but look like they should be.
    4. Completely make up the last “simple” definition so it seems like you are making some profound point that’s actually just a dumb comment.
    5. Call the side with the stupid comment you made up “pop psychology” so people can see in plain sight what gaslighting actually looks like.
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      It’s the wojack/Chad meme of “your side is represented as crying wojack, my side is represented with chiseled Chad version, therefore I win”

      And the “umm akshyully this is what gaslighting REALLY is” just makes me think someone made this whole thing just to try and prove to another person they aren’t a gaslighting narcissist who doesn’t believe someone has ptsd and has lasting issues stemming from it.

      Besides, There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.

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        Is this coolguide gaslighting the definition of “gaslighting”?

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        There doesn’t have to be some elaborate ongoing scheme for something to be gaslighting.

        100% agree.

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    Be honest with yourself, but don’t glorify victimhood. Being a victim fucking sucks. It’s not something to aspire to. I have my issues, but I know I’m not a victim.

    I’ve been blessed not to have to deal with abuse the way others have. I don’t want to cheapen what they went through by classifying something unpleasant I went through in personal interactions as actual abuse or trauma.

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      It’s so difficult to try and have this nuanced take with people. I’m NOT trivializing or saying you should "just suck it up " I’m suggesting that you treat mental illness like an illness: Seek treatment, follow professional advice, and be honest with yourself and the professionals you’re seeing. If I broke my leg, but refused to get a cast because I felt it was really a problem with my arm, while lying to every doctor I meet about what happened, people would get very sick of my nonsense in short order.

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    Dear Americans: Psychotic doesn’t mean what you think it means. Stop using it please.

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    I’d’ve liked to see “schizophrenic,” “antisocial,” and “psychopath” among possible others, but this is indeed pretty cool.

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      Schizophrenic pop - hearing voices or seeing people and things that aren’t real. Makes you do crazy stuff sometimes.

      Schizophrenic from my Psych101 lecture - a disorder that includes marked changes in behavior, mood, affect, and perception. Sufferers question reality, may feel persecuted, and experience sensory simulation that has no external cause. Genetic component coupled with trauma (stress-diathesis model), with an extremely high comorbidity of suicide attempts, depression, and self harm.


      Antisocial pop - going against the grain, not wanting to hang out with people, being misanthropic. “Oh jeeze, i’m just so antisocial lately… maybe I’ll party some other time, guys.”

      Antisocial personality disorder 101 - personlality disorder involving behavior that is typically not only interpersonally disruptive, but is often actively working against the benefit of others. Often accompanied by blunted capacity for empathy for others. Strong genetic component, may express after traumatic childhood experience or an abusive upbringing. Interestingly, has a high comorbidity for substance abuse and other potentially self-destructive behaviors. AKA sociopathy. Early.onset, typically pre-adolescence at latest for diagnosis. Otherwise, it’s considered something akin to adolescent outburst, where it’s expected to go away after some time. Early onset prognosis is worse.


      Psychopathy pop - Cletus Cassidy, Michael Myers, Mrs. Voorhees, the Driller Killer, etc. See also “psycho”

      Psychopathy 101 - similar to ASPD above, but not so much the self-destructive behaviors. Couples antisocial behaviors with complete lack of care or remorse for others, along with a superficial charm (refer back to Learning & Behavior, and social psych notes… charm is a skill!) to manipulate others into doing what they want. Often manifests as “conduct disorder” in kids, but diagnosis is difficult, as there is little objective criteria to go on. The very definition of Psychopathy is hard to nail down, given its broad symptom list, overlap with other diagnoses, and disagreement among professionals.

      “Psycho” is often misused, as it actually refers to psychosis, which is a detachment from reality in which the sufferer can’t tell what is and isn’t real. Causes considerable distress and may lead to dangerous or self-injurious behaviors.

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        Thanks for taking the time!

        On the pop front, I’ll just point add there was also a widespread misconception for a very long time (mostly in the past now I think, but still out there) that schizophrenia was the same as dissociative identity disorder.

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    Tangentially related, “Cultural Appropriation” was a an anthropological/historian term that meant defining and controlling another’s culture. A good example is the English making it illegal for Scots to wear kilts in the 1700s. It is not personally using a hairstyle associated with another group despite what the term sounds like. The people that use that meaning literally culturally appropriated the term from the original group, under the real meaning of the term. People trying to tell spanish speakers that they are “Latinx” is another example of the original meaning.