Such line of thinking has the potential to shift the public opinion and then final judgement in favor of the rapist, believe me it does. I have seen it happen countless times in Turkey. So I would strongly suggest staying as far away as possible from that which can really normalize (even if slightly so) rape in certain kinds of scenarios. And you dont wanna live in that shit hole.
And for the victim who has gone through a traumatic experience, it is like kicking her while she is on the ground. She is probably already going through a lot of regrets and you are there shouting “YEA YOU BETTER FEEL SORRY FOR WHAT YOU DID”
I mean, I think you would also agree that no matter what the location is or how the victim dresses, the amount of punishment should be very heavy so as to be a deterrent. So what is even the point of bringing someone’s life choices to a matter of legal debate. Leave it to that person to evaluate it is not your job or ours
What you described is exactly the problem I see. The fear of the entire argument flopping to the other extreme.
But let’s be honest here: ignoring the truth because you can’t handle the truth (or are afraid of not being able to handle it) is wrong. It’s hypocrisy. And I’m actually relatively sure that you alienate a lot of people in the middle of the extremes because they can see the willful ignorance behind the argument. That means, you’re losing supporters.
Just look at how vile I’m being attacked here. There’s not even a hint of trying to understand my point. Just “not my line, must be the enemy”. That’s bonkers and not helpful.
Because your point is fucking stupid at best and harmful at worst. Women take self defense classes, go to the restroom in pairs, barely trust their male friends, and are terrified of traveling alone even if it’s for something like work. Why? Because they know how easy it is to “put themselves in a position to be vulnerable.” And you want to keep rubbing it in? Make them even more responsible than they already feel subconsciously? Fuck you. It’s not helpful. Instead of grandstanding for rape victims to take responsibility just shut up. It’s free and you won’t have so many people calling you a rape apologist.
Such line of thinking has the potential to shift the public opinion and then final judgement in favor of the rapist, believe me it does. I have seen it happen countless times in Turkey. So I would strongly suggest staying as far away as possible from that which can really normalize (even if slightly so) rape in certain kinds of scenarios. And you dont wanna live in that shit hole.
And for the victim who has gone through a traumatic experience, it is like kicking her while she is on the ground. She is probably already going through a lot of regrets and you are there shouting “YEA YOU BETTER FEEL SORRY FOR WHAT YOU DID”
I mean, I think you would also agree that no matter what the location is or how the victim dresses, the amount of punishment should be very heavy so as to be a deterrent. So what is even the point of bringing someone’s life choices to a matter of legal debate. Leave it to that person to evaluate it is not your job or ours
What you described is exactly the problem I see. The fear of the entire argument flopping to the other extreme.
But let’s be honest here: ignoring the truth because you can’t handle the truth (or are afraid of not being able to handle it) is wrong. It’s hypocrisy. And I’m actually relatively sure that you alienate a lot of people in the middle of the extremes because they can see the willful ignorance behind the argument. That means, you’re losing supporters.
Just look at how vile I’m being attacked here. There’s not even a hint of trying to understand my point. Just “not my line, must be the enemy”. That’s bonkers and not helpful.
Because your point is fucking stupid at best and harmful at worst. Women take self defense classes, go to the restroom in pairs, barely trust their male friends, and are terrified of traveling alone even if it’s for something like work. Why? Because they know how easy it is to “put themselves in a position to be vulnerable.” And you want to keep rubbing it in? Make them even more responsible than they already feel subconsciously? Fuck you. It’s not helpful. Instead of grandstanding for rape victims to take responsibility just shut up. It’s free and you won’t have so many people calling you a rape apologist.
what is the truth and what is the other extreme?