• RyanGosling [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I had an Arab friend told me he hated Ukraine. Not hated the war or anything like, but just hated Ukraine as a whole. I definitely understood his sentiment but didn’t agree with entirely hating it even after all the obvious Nazism. I took the liberal route of bad apples, that the majority of people do not support fascism. But it’s pretty clear that my friend is correct. I hate modern Ukraine in its entirety - no different than the US or Israel or Nazi Germany or confederate south. This is what Ukraine and its western allies support. Russia shouldn’t give them any concessions

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      1 year ago

      it is worth noting that the Ukrainian people elected Zelensky on a platform of peace and bringing azov to heel. Although everyone from the region I’ve personally met has been massively in favour of war with russia

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        1 year ago

        Zelensky ran on a peace platform so he got more votes in Donetsk, Lugansk and the other regions in the East, as you go further West you get less and less people voting for him until you reach Lviv and overseas voters where they voted for PoroshenKKKo

      • Mardoniush [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        I know a few, and while they’re generally no fan of Putin (who you do not in fact have to hand it to), massively in favour is an overstatement.

        Socialists of course are just in despair with Nazis running free and even the anti-Russian left censored and shut down, but even with libs who regard it as an unambiguous war of self-defence it’s not pure jingoism.

        I think people are greatly underestimating the cost of this war, it’s like the home front of WW1 there right now, a generation wiped out, then replaced by the next set of 18 year olds, that also get wiped out. Except Ukraine is careful to keep casualties as invisible as possible. Rationing and complete shutdown of much of the economy. Meanwhile Russia can soak up the deaths with less impact on their society.