Confirmed by AP news here (go directly to slide 4 in the slideshow for more information)
For those who don’t want to click the link:
Completely on brand and absolutely no one in the MSM sphere will question who was fighting against the Russians in WW2
Right this way 
I did not have that on my bingo card for this year.
I definitely did, it was easy to see the liberals slipping into fascism from the very start
when are we going to hear about brave resistance to the Russians liberating Auschwitz
Holy shit "people that fought in the nazi army were nazos is Russian propaganda.
Anybody else notice how this “Russian propoganda” has had a way stronger connection to reality than the libs explanation of everything for the last couple years.
i posted about this Nazi and then had a debate with my close friend. He’s like, an anarchist or something, but he has the most lib take on Ukraine.
I pointed out all the nazis and nazi monuments, he says “what about Americas confederate statues?” I said both could be bad and that moving the goalposts and whatboutism.
Then he said he supports the right to self determination for Ukraine. So i said what about Donbass aka LPR and DPR. He said that’s a Russian psyop, and it doesnt matter that eastern Ukraine is mostly ethnic Russians. He said he’d support Barcelona leaving Spain if they did it “democratically.” Like fucking lol. #vote
Of course, he’s an “anti-authoritarian” who basically hates all “dictators” like Stalin, and he doesn’t like China at all either. He also wants the wealthy to get redacted. This is why I can’t take anyone seriously when they just spout off against all “authority.” I think it mostly stems from him hating his mother and still acting like a petulant teenager. Authority isn’t going anywhere, it will always be around in one form or another. And anybody who can’t even critically support current and former AES just sounds like a stupid leftist who will truly get nothing done. You can’t just skip every step and end up at anarchy, that’s an 16 year olds view of anarchism.
I sent this to my libertarian-turned-lib friend and he immediately said, “Oh he must have been Ukranian Resistance after the war.” But they said he fought in WWII. “Oh well it was late in the war and he didn’t get convicted of any war crimes.” Libs refuse to believe that any Ukrainian can do wrong throughout history now. Canada is apologizing profusely today because they “didn’t know the guy was a Nazi.”
“Russia bad” syndrome is pretty fucking insane, its crazy to see people still clinging to cold war rhetoric, especially being born after the cold war. My “anarchist” friend seems to think NATO is a good thing, like it’s not imperialist or unjust in any way. He’s ok with what happened in Libya. That on top of never find an actually existing Socialist state to support just shows me that libs like him don’t support a real path to revolution. I think my friend is just a stupid idealist, who thinks we can revolution and skip all the other steps and get right to anarchism or pure communism. But that isn’t going to happen unless the revolution is worldwide(which is probably won’t be)
When someone claims to be an anarchist but they support NATO its just… ok you SAY you’re against all states but somehow you’re for a military alliance of multiple… states? Thats not anarchism anymore.
Like I may disagree heavily with anarchists who include AES states in their “I"m against all states” stuff but if they are actually consistent about hating states and hate the imperialist powers too then like, at least thats consistent. But so often its not that way. Being “anti-authoritarian” just ends up being an excuse to follow the US state department line to a T.
this stupid nerd was in model UN so i think he still hasnt shaken those brainworms.
it’s impossible to be revolutionary and anti authoritarian. like ok, so we won’t oppress class traitors etc during or after the revolution, because it’s anti authoritarian? how the fuck couldnt anyone plan to win like that? even just taking all of their money and property would be authoritarianism.
fidel needs to come back and beat some sense into his son
hello son
I think you guys are being a bit over the top here about his:
Germans made three political concessions: It was stipulated that the division shall not be used to fight Western Allies, and would be used exclusively to “fight Bolsheviks”. The other concession was in that its oath of allegiance to Hitler was conditional on the fight against Bolshevism.
Good thing there’s no link between anti communism and fascism
Yes he took the oath of allegiance to the head nazi, but how do we know he was actually a nazi and not just a brave freedom fighter?
Things the ‘good guys’ do:
Bring out and parade around a Nazi for applause while brazenly lying about his actual identity and the nature of his service
Bolshevism didn’t exist during WWII, therefore the Ukrainian SS division wasn’t actually loyal to Hitler
In the 50s and 60s, the easiest way to gain entry into Canada for immigration was to show a Nazi tattoo. This proved one was ideologically anti-communist and thus safe.
had me in the first half
There’s actually large Ukrainian exile groups living in Canada, including some linked to OUN-B (Organization Ukrainian Nationalists - Bandera faction)
https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-canadian-bandera-network
Here’s a Ukrainian-Canadian high school student holding a picture of the genocidal Yaroslav Stetsko
Here’s a bunch of Ukrainian-Canadian children in front of a giant bust of the genocidal Roman Shukhevych
Some info about Stetsko/Shukhevych (source: https://archive.md/GZa2H):
Just goes to show you that the war against fascism is global. There is no “fleeing” to places like Canada to get away from this shit. You must arm yourself and get ready to kill fascists within your life time.
Parading around the OUN flag… That really disturbs me. No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except “history repeats itself”, pretending it’s a law of physics.
No liberal has learned anything from the holocaust except “history repeats itself”, pretending it’s a law of physics.
They sure seem to want it to repeat itself as many times as needed
Our Deputy Prime Minister Christian Freeland was more than happy to pose behind the banner last year
She was also probably the first person to trot out the “mentioning Ukrainian nazis is Russian propaganda!” line when asked why her grandfather worked for a nazi propaganda rag.
Legit, if I found out my child’s school in a “progressive country” made students march around honoring nazis, I would tell my kid to become a bully
The color of the shirts on the first photo, eh, does check out.
not even one of the contemporary kkklown divisions that litter ukkkraine, but one of the OG nazis. not surprised tbh
You may be right, but Ukraine is still a defending country facing many war crimes by the attacker. Which also hasn’t provoked that attack in any way.
Other than bombing civilians for a decade and sending neonazi terrorists to harass and murder them and attempting to join an aggressive military alliance that was created to encircle and destroy their neighbor, sure, they didn’t do anything to provoke it.
It’s one thing to think Ukraine is the “better” side on balance but to claim that they didn’t do anything to provoke an attack just shows that you don’t know anything about what’s been going on in the region.
Zelenskyy and Trudeau also attended a rally in Toronto with the local Ukrainian community late Friday.
Wonder how many red and black flags they had at that rally.
Here’s a video I found. Looks like one (Ukrainian) flag and a few itsy-bitsy souvenir type Ukrainian and Canadian flags like you might find in a margarita or something. But it looks like a small, elitest crowd of mostly people in business suits. So probably more the type who appreciate the fascism from afar and pretend it’s just a necessary evil that has little to do with them because it’s just their money getting soaked in blood, not their own actual hands.
Then again I don’t see any shots of the people at the back, so who knows.
https://sloth.cdnja.co/v/we/wEjWo.mp4
Thread on this nazi piece of shit: https://farside.link/nitter/I_Katchanovski/status/1705739708683128836
Who scratched Canada?
canada doesn’t need to be scratched, canadians are desperate to prove that we can hang with the big boys aren’t aren’t just a peripheral resource extraction colony on the edge of empire. nobody takes Canada all that seriously so our politicians have to go out of their way to telegraph that we are as fascist as our allies
I had an Arab friend told me he hated Ukraine. Not hated the war or anything like, but just hated Ukraine as a whole. I definitely understood his sentiment but didn’t agree with entirely hating it even after all the obvious Nazism. I took the liberal route of bad apples, that the majority of people do not support fascism. But it’s pretty clear that my friend is correct. I hate modern Ukraine in its entirety - no different than the US or Israel or Nazi Germany or confederate south. This is what Ukraine and its western allies support. Russia shouldn’t give them any concessions
it is worth noting that the Ukrainian people elected Zelensky on a platform of peace and bringing azov to heel. Although everyone from the region I’ve personally met has been massively in favour of war with russia
Zelensky ran on a peace platform so he got more votes in Donetsk, Lugansk and the other regions in the East, as you go further West you get less and less people voting for him until you reach Lviv and overseas voters where they voted for PoroshenKKKo
yeah but if you look at that map there is still a majority of people voting for the peace platform across nearly the entire country
I know a few, and while they’re generally no fan of Putin (who you do not in fact have to hand it to), massively in favour is an overstatement.
Socialists of course are just in despair with Nazis running free and even the anti-Russian left censored and shut down, but even with libs who regard it as an unambiguous war of self-defence it’s not pure jingoism.
I think people are greatly underestimating the cost of this war, it’s like the home front of WW1 there right now, a generation wiped out, then replaced by the next set of 18 year olds, that also get wiped out. Except Ukraine is careful to keep casualties as invisible as possible. Rationing and complete shutdown of much of the economy. Meanwhile Russia can soak up the deaths with less impact on their society.
There is probably a selection bias there, like most Cubans in America being reactionaries.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/16qxada/zelenskyy_joins_canadian_parliaments_ovation_to/ of course
mods removed it
Worldnews from
is deleting it on sight.Funny to see the narrative crumble bit by bit.
Got banned from there months ago for “spreading Russian misinformation” when I said “I don’t think we should give self avowed nazis a bunch of military gear with no strings attached because after the war they’ll still have them and use them to do nazi shit in a newly destabilized region”
Does saying “I told you so” ever actually get you anything or are the libs gonna ignore the fact they’ve been wrong about everything for decades until they get us all killed.
Does saying “I told you so” ever actually get you anything
It doesn’t, after Azov transforms into Azov Qaeda or whatever after the war libs will just lie saying they never supported the proxy war in Ukraine anyway and they’ll just jump back into the 24h news cycle to support some other far-right group in Taiwan instead.
Post it in the lemmy worldnews comm.
The word nazi doesn’t even appear in that AP article what the fuuuuck
Not even the words “SS” or “German”. The average unbiased, unpropagandized westerner will read the caption and think “whoa wholesome Ukrainian military unit”
Always important to point out that more Ukrainian fought in the Red Army in WW2 than with the Nazi collaborators. Just to piss off the “national liberation” crowd.
Zelensky’s fucking grandpa fought for the Soviets
Like, an entire additional digit more
a lot more, I want to say like 8 times as many but I don’t remember clearly
From basic googling I found ~250,000 Ukrainian collaborators in various ways and 7 million Ukrainians in the Red Army, 4 million in the Ukraine campaign alone.
Really not beating the supporting Nazis allegations with this
