If a leftist believes that a far right regime is the only place to get accurate information that can’t be found elsewhere, and then promotes that far right regime’s media, that person is not a leftist.
What are they? I don’t know. But when we have a small amount of accounts of people who are not who they claim to be, and they all are spending hours per day promoting the exact same message, and occasionally responding to the wrong messages, coordination of some kind is happening.
These accounts who push borderline pro-hamas sentiments while using Qatari media to do so may not be state sponsored. It could just be some lone nutcase who just really agrees with Qatar’s geopolitical goals.
fact checking is too easy and ubiquitous to think you can just lie about the facts, so innuendo and framing are the really pernicious aspects of modern propaganda thats framed as news. so, no, I don’t think it’s necessary to wait.
Everybody who clicks on a link to that website without an ad blocker just gave ad revenue to an explicitly anti-semitic government. Going without a VPN, and that government now has a really simple way of unmasking the identities of who visited, directly from Lemmy.
As leftists, we have to be pro Palestine while being anti Qatar and anti Hamas. Trusting what they tell us isn’t leftist, nor intelligent and I think if you are being honest with yourself, you already know that.
accusing people who post accurate information to Lemmy of being state actors is, yes, a conspiracy theory
If a leftist believes that a far right regime is the only place to get accurate information that can’t be found elsewhere, and then promotes that far right regime’s media, that person is not a leftist.
What are they? I don’t know. But when we have a small amount of accounts of people who are not who they claim to be, and they all are spending hours per day promoting the exact same message, and occasionally responding to the wrong messages, coordination of some kind is happening.
These accounts who push borderline pro-hamas sentiments while using Qatari media to do so may not be state sponsored. It could just be some lone nutcase who just really agrees with Qatar’s geopolitical goals.
sure. could also be a leftist.
Maybe. If so, they’d be a lousy one.
your characterization doesn’t determine the veracity of anyone’s politics.
they don’t need to believe it is the only place to get accurate information to post accurate information from there
How do you personally determine when a right wing propaganda outlet is telling you the truth?
I assume the facts are right in most media. it’s the framing you gotta watch out for.
Why would you assume the facts reported by the media wing of the government funding one of the sides being reported on is accurate?
Don’t you agree that these leftists posting should wait until independent media verifies Qatar’s claims before it gets posted?
fact checking is too easy and ubiquitous to think you can just lie about the facts, so innuendo and framing are the really pernicious aspects of modern propaganda thats framed as news. so, no, I don’t think it’s necessary to wait.
You don’t think it is necessary to fact check authoritarian governments before believing what they tell you?
Wow. Just sit in that for a little bit.
what have they published that has been proven to be false?
this is an appeal to ridicule. it’s not a rebuttal.
you said yourself you can’t prove this. it’s a conspiracy theory.
I don’t need to prove that people who are funneling ad revenue to far right authoritarian regimes who fund religious terrorism aren’t leftists.
Their actions did that before I entered the equation.
that’s conjecture, not proof
What in that statement is conjecture?
Everybody who clicks on a link to that website without an ad blocker just gave ad revenue to an explicitly anti-semitic government. Going without a VPN, and that government now has a really simple way of unmasking the identities of who visited, directly from Lemmy.
As leftists, we have to be pro Palestine while being anti Qatar and anti Hamas. Trusting what they tell us isn’t leftist, nor intelligent and I think if you are being honest with yourself, you already know that.
leftists link corporate media of all kind. it doesn’t impugn their politics.
Most corporate media aren’t the sister organizations of Hamas.
You know that.
but they take money from people just as shitty, like bayer and lockheed and the pentagon. there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.