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    Its hard to think of anything more heroic than going overseas to run a charity kitchen in a famine-stricken warzone.

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      Especially when knowing that the attacking force has no care for whether their strikes hit a foreign aid group or Palestinian civilians.

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        JDAM-equipped bombs hit a target with an error range of only 20 feet.

        Israel has full air control, as well as numerous spy satellites to monitor Gaza in real time.

        I believe the attacking force does care exactly where their strikes hit. This is deliberate.

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      very heartbreaking to think about it. These women and men are brave heros who were killed by coward terrorists. Another day another war crime by the Israeli government

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    The meat was probably Hamas so it was justified, an imaginary IDF dog said.

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    Singapore itself is an Israeli ally and has been trying to frame the whole war as just a case of racial and religious disagreement rather than colonialism. It is also participating in Operation Prosperity Garden (the US-backed operation to stop Ansar Allah from enforcing the red sea blockade on Israel). I feel for the charity workers. The government’s hands however are stained with both Palestinian and Singaporean blood.

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    Their supporters still will say they have the most sophisticated weaponry and guidance systems. These attacks are purposeful.

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      They also have one of the most sophisticated communications technology. They had spies everywhere. 2,900 people attacked and they didn’t have one spy to tell them a date…

      According to The New York Times, Israeli officials had obtained detailed attack plans more than a year before the attack. The document described operational plans and targets, including the size and location of Israeli forces, and raised questions in Israel about how Hamas learned these details.

      The Times reported, “Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision.”

      In July 2023, a member of the Israeli signals intelligence unit alerted her superiors that Hamas was conducting preparations for the assault, saying, “I utterly refute that the scenario is imaginary”. An Israeli colonel ignored her concerns.

      Source: Wikipedia

      They allowed this to happen. They wanted a reason to attack and take what’s left of Palestine.

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        If viewed like a ‘total war’, attacking every possible advantage the enemy may have whether civilian or military, it does makes sense from a historic military doctrine standpoint. The IDF believes they are immune to judgement and prosecution, and their goal is to destroy the Palestinian nation and people. They believe they are righteous, supported by God, so any attack that has a chance to weaken the Palestinian people is an attack they will take.

        Overall though I believe these attacks have weakened support for Israel so much that they have a greater chance of being defeated than anytime I’ve seen before this conflict.

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    They were killed after an air strike that targeted an inhabited house near a United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees school sheltering those displaced.

    Ah I see they doubled down by hitting two definitely totally Hamas targets with one bomb.

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    Wait I thought Kamala called for a cease fire. For 6 weeks. Then back to the murder spree. How disappointing ah well I suppose there’s nothing America can do but watch in terror and send more munitions

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        it’s no secret that Israel can only function like it does thanks to US support

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            You are deeply delusional if you think “producing bombs” is the only thing America does for Israel. The states have very deep ties, because Israel is America’s primary outpost in the region. “Geopolitical partners” are non-fungible. You can’t just say “if the US didn’t support Israel, some other country would”, that’s not how it works, besides the self-evident statement that there would be some state with some ideology with some policies at that territory. For example, from the very start (1967) PFLP fought not just Zionism, but also Western, primarily American imperialism - that’s how obvious the connection is.

            And I’m not American so I don’t even know who Kamala is, but I imagine it’s some random genocidal politician that could just as well be replaced with any other genocidal politician. The US supporting an Israeli ceasefire would indeed be a heavy blow to Israel because US interests are the only thing preventing unanimous UN support for a ceasfire, and because the US is Israel’s primary economic partner, and under US sanctions Israel’s military prowess would quickly dive below the level of Cuba, even lower because of the hostility of most countries of the world towards it. But the “ceasefire” framing is disingenuous as it considers the two sides of the conflict as equals, as opposed to the occupied and the occupier.

            Of course, what you are saying would be natural for someone who believes in vulgar economists’ favorite “supply and demand” and “the invisible hand of the market” being something akin to natural forces. Luckily, they aren’t actually natural forces, but something created by humans, something we can analyze just fine.

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              This is a lot of words to avoid the questions you were asked lmao. You want to establish America as evil for the actions of other nations as an excuse to not hate your government more.

              Yall are so delusional its not even worth engaging your spin off tangents. Just like you ignored the statements of my previous comment, ypu would continue doing so moving forward. You even admit you chimed in in bad faith, “i dont even know who Kamala is”. You wanted to change the discussion before to distract from the fact the initial comment is clear bad faith propoganda meant to establish fault for actions taken by a different nation. Here you are again trying to run off topic because it’s inconvenient to face the facts.

              I joined this chat asking why they think Kamala calling for a ceasefire was in contradiction to America selling bombs. You joined to paint a false narrative to distract.

              Again, what specific actions did you think would come as a result of Kamala calling for a ceasefire?

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                Again, what specific actions did you think would come as a result of Kamala calling for a ceasefire?

                I didn’t see anyone imply that they expected anything from Harris’ empty rhetoric, so I don’t know why you’re asking this.

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                Your comments are a prime example of the fallacies of analytical (as opposed to dialectical) thinking. I’m talking about the broader interconnections, relations, tendencies, and you’re trying to shift the focus from the system into its constituent parts. Of course, if you do that, you can get any conclusion you want. The fact of the matter is you can’t look at Israel without looking at the US, you can’t look at Kamala without looking at the American government.

                You’re asking - “what would Kamala asking for ceasefire change”. I say - Kamala is part of the American government, which is dead set on supporting Israel, and she wouldn’t magically change her mind, because her consciousness, like anyone else’s, is shaped by her social being. That said, that doesn’t mean she won’t ever change her mind - if she does, it would be indicative of broader shifts and contradictions among American elites. Her asking for ceasefire wouldn’t be a cause - it would be a symptom. As for what American support for a ceasefire change, I wrote about that in my comment above.

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                  Her asking for ceasefire wouldn’t be a cause - it would be a symptom.

                  It wouldn’t even necessarily be that: it might have been empty rhetoric to assuage the masses and lubricate the genocide.

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                  Calling it a logical fallacy to ask you to respond to the topic discussed in the thread has gotta be a new level of hypocrisy/coping.

                  The reality of you propoganda groups from Russia, is you have a two faced theory on responsibility of government. All other people of other nations or governments are responsible for all actions taken by all individuals of their nation, but everybody in Russia is a victim of government thus not responsible for any actions or intellectual honesty on the conversation of government.

                  Yall can’t make a functioning government of your own but think you have what it takes to improve others lmao.

                  You clearly do not understand how a Democratic government works if you think a VP can just override the will of representatives from dozens of states who represent millions of people.

                  If you can’t participate in a conversation in good faith then fuck off.

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            What exact difference did you expect to come from the VP of America calling for a ceasefire between 2 foreign nations?

            You mean between an genocidal, apartheid, settler-colonial, occupier state and an stateless occupied peoples.

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              Yup, didn’t realize which instance I stumbled into until after lmao.

              It was just such an impressive assertion I had to ask more lmao.