This is me in Red Dead Redemption 2.
Plot mission: They kidnapped my SON! Arthur, we’re forming up a posse and riding into town to get my son back! [yellow mission marker appears on the map]
Me: Oh, that’s awful. I’m sorry to hear about that. [Ok, so I still need to find and kill a cougar for my satchel. Let’s see, the best spawn point for cougars is a few days ride away up north…]
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So many of the missions in that game are cliffhangers and imply that you need to do something now. But, I’m always off picking flowers, hunting rare beasts, looking at treasure maps, and so on.
It actually ends up ruining the plot to a certain extent. Like, the plot missions are all about how the gang is desperate for money, meanwhile I just finished a treasure hunt and brought back $1000 and donated it to the camp. I’m financially supporting this group of 20ish people, plus I’m feeding them with all the meat I bring back for the stew (even if I’m only allowed to have stew every couple of days). Dutch keeps saying we need one last score so we can get on a boat to Tahiti. I’m like “give me a couple of days and I’ll buy first class tickets for all of us.”
I get the feeling that by Chapter 6 you’re supposed to be losing confidence in Dutch (as a player, as Arthur you still seem to have confidence in him for some reason). But, for me, he was an idiot many chapters ago because he was suggesting all these illegal schemes to make money, when my hunting, herbing, etc. was bringing in the big bucks.
And, I’ve barely played the fishing minigames yet, let alone the legendary fish fishing games…
I would love an RPG where time actually matters. If some NPC tells you to meet him under that tree tonight, and you’re not there, he should get mad and refuse to help you. And if a mission is urgent, there should be consequences if you go off doing something else, maybe even failing the mission. It would be awesome if there are multiple missions but you only have time for one or two.
Related, how about no radar and mission markers? So if you get directions, you actually need to follow them. And you need to actually explore instead of simply following a quest marker with half an eye on a minimap. IIRC one of the early Elder Scrolls did this?
Sounds like you’d really enjoy Pathologic 2 - it does everything you described! It’s not a classical RGP, but it’s an incredibly unique and impressive game. I haven’t been able to stop thinking about the story since I first experienced it ~2 years ago!
Thanks for that! I put it on my wishlist so I can grab it with the next sale.
Awesome, I hope you enjoy it!
Majora’s Mask
I mean, Morrowind did this to an extent. But the result is that some vital NPC would get randomly killed by a bear halfway across the map, and you’d get the dreaded “you can’t beat the game anymore lul get fucked” message. Then you’re stuck reloading your last save, desperately hoping to find whatever NPC it was.
The details escape me, but there actually was still a way to progress after getting that message. I remember it involved the dwarf with the spider centurion legs; I think he knew something about where some of the pieces were.
Baldur’s Gate 3 has tons of time-sensitive missions where your decision to do something else results in changed circumstances. Didn’t work out well for me as a player that wants to explore EVERYTHING, which I did in Act 1.
My girlfriend and I just finally got through DOS:2 and started BG3 this weekend. She stresses THE FUCK out about things like this, because we have to do everything ‘right’ or close to it. Can I ask in a relatively spoiler free way if it’s going to lead to huge negative consequences? Or more so just different than outright negative?
Let’s just say that no one path through BG3 is correct or wrong, but there are definite in-game consequences for a quest that is missed or ignored.
Sometimes I wanted this, but thinking back again that kind of mission just doesn’t fit open world games. Like, I can’t imagine Elden Ring with any deadline in it. So I just swallow my disbelief and accept that open world games also means open time games.
My first impression was that this puts an awful lot on the player to remember, that wouldn’t even be a thing for somebody who actually lived in the world.
I think I could tolerate some of this though if games would stop having main storyline plots that revolved around rush rush rush. Looking at you, cyberpunk 2077.
an awful lot on the player to remember,
I feel like this could be solved just by having a journal with a recap of where you have to go. “NPC said I need to go to the hut near the river just north of X village”, and then you could look at a map, find the river, and know it should be somewhere around there. No need to remember, but also no need to just mindlessly follow an orange marker.
Yes, this is what meant. That would be great.
This is what Morrowind did, but the journal was organized chronologically so it was a hilariously incomprehensible mess. You basically just had an unorganized bullet pointed to-do list, with zero context surrounding the individual points. So if you started one quest then picked up another in the middle, the first quest would be split in half as bullet points landed on both sides of the second quest.
Time actually mattering is what I’d like to see in an MMO. Like, instead of a repeatable weekly raid that everyone gets to do multiple times, once a dragon / monster / supervillain is dead, if you weren’t part of the event killing it, you missed out. But, there will be more threats to the realm / universe.
Basically, I’d like to see the actions of players mattering the way it does in say Eve Online, but in a world with powerful NPCs and some story.
Mmm, Arther, you’ve been gone a long time… Come back to camp. Please?
Nah, I’m good, I still have 11 different fish to catch and this mutant one around all these hillbillies is bugging me.
Look, it’s simple. If the game has a fishing minigame, it’s a good game. If it doesn’t, it’s bad.
thank you for finally validating my stardew valley
obsessionhobbyThe latest Yakuza game has a fishing game and segas bass fishing emulated in it. It’s an amazing game so this checks out.
Don’t most of them have a fishing minigame?
I rememer spending most time in Yakuza 3 on the beach collecting
free moneywhatever the most expensive fish was just to enjoy the game.I can’t recall if there was any fishing in 4.
Haven’t played all of them but I would imagine they all have a fishing mini game of some sort.
Does Minecraft’s fishing mechanic count?
The only rule is, you must use a traditional fishing technique or implement to aquire fish or fish material.
So yes, Minecraft is a classic example of a good game!
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Nah, I don’t get distracted so easi… oh, a nirnroot!
My issue is I want to complete all the side quests but don’t want to save them till the end so I try to mix them in as I go, slowly start to lose interest in the game and even tho I put in 150 plus hours I never finish the main story line…
“Geralt, it’s me, Yennefer, you haven’t seen me in a long time and Ciri is back and in danger!”
“Oh wow, that’s the biggest thing that has happened to me in a long time, so I’m going to become the best gwent player in the north”
I knew I wouldn’t have to go too far down in the comments to find someone mentioning Gwent. I spent more time in Gwent than I did playing anything else in The Witcher 3. Same goes for the Triple Triad game in FFVIII, except I actually finished FFVIII lol
One morning I was playing and realized I had about 100 hours played according to my save files. 12% complete. So I am like WTF. Until I checked my inventory. Man, some of that fish has got to have gone bad, right? Been in that sack for weeks.
I’ve got 170+ hours on my Fallout 4 save on Xbox and another 80 hours on my PC copy.
The other night I spent the over an hour trying to build a bathroom for the bar in my settlement. I had to make it, destroy it, and make it again out of different material. I only actually put a toilet and sink in one of them…
That’s why Sim Settlements was a godsend
I did just look up SIM Settlements 2 and after dealing with vanilla for so long, it seems overwhelming.
SS2 is actually pretty easy. There’s also a voiced quest line that’s a lot of fun and instructions on the basics. Basically, you put down a plot and it builds itself into a random structure with a specific purpose. There’s some complicated mechanics if you truly want to dig into it (usually when playing survival), but it’s not necessary to leverage the plot system. The plots handle beds, stores, food, entertainment, etc. for you. All the workshop tools by Kinggath are quality improvements too. He has a YT channel explaining everything
I’m making a push right now to get the story finished (both sides) so I can grab those achievements, and then I’ll be adding lots of mods.
I have over 500 hours on mine, still haven’t finished the main storyline.
I spent quite some time trying to catch the biggest fish I could in Orcarina of Time
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Would like to know the same .
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Me starting yet afuckingnother Baldurs Gate 3 playthrough
I spent so much time at the Gold Saucer in FF7 that Sephiroth had to check into a retirement home before the final battle.
Sidequest and open worlds are the reason I often don’t finish games and I actually hate that. it’s hard enough for me to get immersed in the stories but the free roaming makes me lose interest pretty fast.
Twilight Princess had two separate fishing minigames, you get a fishing rod and can use a few things you find around the world as bait and can just…fish in any bit of water (I think you can find a loach in some obscure room in the water temple, of all places) and then there’s the fishing hole chick who’s the sister of the boat ride chick and the lantern oil guy, what’s her name? Where you go out in the boat.
Hahaha me in Xenoblade. I just started it and got to district 9 and haven’t done any of the main story. Just talking to every NPC and exploring around trying to fill in the map as well as do side quests. Still no idea what this games about
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