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Jews4Palestine to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago

Oh no, I said 'steamed hamas'. That's what I call Palestinians.

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Oh no, I said 'steamed hamas'. That's what I call Palestinians.

Jews4Palestine to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 year ago
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    I too believe that. Most people in this community abhorre everything hamas stands for (if you don’t, shame on you) but God forbid if Israel does anything to solve the problem of having a neighbouring country trying to kill every single citizen of you own.

    Just let it be and it will resolve itself, they think.

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      God forbid if Israel does anything to solve the problem

      The core objection is the how. Why the massively disproportionate force is encouraged by the IDF as its own ‘tool of terror’ to dissuade the population of those it fights against

      ‘We will wield disproportionate power against every village from which shots are fired on Israel, and cause immense damage and destruction. From our perspective, these are military bases… This isn’t a suggestion. This is a plan that has already been authorized.’

      • Israeli General, Gadi Eisenkot in 2008
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        “HAMAS is committed to armed resistance against Israel and the creation of an Islamic Palestinian state in Israel’s place. HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007, when it ousted the Palestinian Authority from power.”

        Your not much of a negotiator if your idea of negotiation is the destruction and annihilalition of the other party.

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          https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/rape-comment-controversy-returns-to-haunt-idf-chief-rabbi-nominee-jd7k7n33

          Rabbi Colonel Eyal Karim, who has been nominated as the new Chief Rabbi of the Israeli Defence Forces, is under scrutiny for comments he made about rape during wartime.

          Rabbi Karim issued a clarification in 2012 regarding his comments, stating that “obviously, in our times, when the world has advanced to a level of morality in which one does not marry captives, one must not perform this act, which is also entirely against the army’s values and orders.”

          Just wrap your brains around that, as you try to explain why Palestinians need to be exterminated to clear way for Israeli occupation of Gaza.

          HAMAS has been the de facto governing body in the Gaza Strip since 2007

          The Gaza districts have not been permitted to conduct elections since 2006. There are people in Gaza who were 16 years old when the Hamas aligned party won that election, are now 32 years old, and have never had an opportunity to voice support for an alternative party in power.

          Incidentally, they are now being starved to death in a small town on Gaza’s southern most tip, because of an election result from the Bush Administration.

          Imagine if a Canadian army had marched south into New Hampshire, forced every last New Hampshirite onto the border of Massachusetts, and relentlessly bombed Portsmouth for months, because the state had voted in a GOP state legislative majority in 2006.

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            The Palestinians gleefully cheering and spitting on the desecrated bodies of victims of the massacre seem pretty supportive of hamas doings.

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              Hamas wouldn’t exist if there was no occupation

              British Mandate Period:

              Antisemitism in Islam

              Antisemitism in the Arab World

              The Concept of Transfer 1882-1948

              Palestinian Arab Congress advocating for Unified State 1928

              1929 Riots from Forward and 972Mag

              Shaw Commission

              Peel Commission Report and Memorandum of the Arab Higher Committee 1937

              1936-1939 Revolt from JVL, Britannica, MEE

              Irgun and Lehi activity

              What Hitler and the Grand Mufti Really Said: Time, Haaretz, WaPo

              Yosef Weitz’ unofficial Transfer Committee and the JNF. Which has dispossessed Palestinians to present day. 972mag, MEE, Haaretz

              1948 to 1967:

              Plan Dalet and Declassified Massacres

              Additional context of what was detailed in Plan C (May 1946) and Plan D (March 1948)

              Arab League advocating for unified state 1948

              1967 war Declassified

              Israel Martial Law and Defence (Emergency) Regulations practiced in the occupied territories after 1967

              How the US became the ally of Israel

              UK influence

              Occupation:

              Occupation and 50 years of dispossession

              1st Intifada AJ, PBS, Haaretz

              Oslo Accords MEE, NYT, Haaretz, AJ

              2nd Intifada AJ, Haaretz

              Gaza Blockade is Occupation

              Dahiya Doctrine

              Arab Israelis are not equal including Education (2001 report)

              Palestinian Prisoners in Israel and Military Court

              Child abuse of Palestinian prisoners

              Apartheid

              Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)

              Settler Violence, Torture and Abuse in Interrogations, No freedom of movement, and also Water control

              Gaza March for Return Protest

              Palestinians lack civil rights

              Hamas founding charter and Revised charter 2017

              History of Hamas supported by Netanyahu since 2012

              AWRAD Gaza War Poll

              PCPSR Public Opinion Poll Dec 2023

              History of peace process

              One State Solution, Foreign Affairs archived here

              10 Myths of Israel

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      That’s the thing. They aren’t doing anything that will truly destroy Hamas. Indiscriminate bombings and attacks do nothing. They need to send boots on the ground to root them out, while simultaneously cordoning off and protecting civilians.

      Because that’s what the good guys do. They don’t fight back against terrorists by becoming bloodthirsty terrorists of their own. Palestinians are hostages by Hamas, and Israel should be trying to save them too.

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