person backing up his car exploitable with the following four panels:

  1. person looking ahead. the text below him says, “wow a cool software. let’s check out the community”
  2. screenshot with the text

    Community
    The main place where the community gathers is our Discord server. Feel free to join there to ask questions, help out others, share cool things you created with Typst, or just to chat.

  3. hand on gear shift zoomed in, switching to reverse
  4. person looking behind with the text “nevermind”.
  • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    What do you mean find anything?

    Discord is used like this:

    Text message: you wanna play today? Yeah.

    Discord: here’s the server address. Thanks

    Discord voice chat: I made us a bunch of supplies. Cool I dug up a diamond.

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        10 months ago

        Everyone is like "discord is a bad project discussion and documentation space! "

        Which could be read as “it’s very hard to cut this steak with a plunger!”

        People are complaining about using a tool incorrectly.

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          We’re complaining about having to use it incorrectly. We can’t help if the software project (that’s part of a software project, that’s part of a software project we need) only offers support via discord.

          To belabor your metaphor, you’re saying that we shouldn’t complain if we want a steak and the only place to get steak only offers plungers as utensils.

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            Does that really happen? I only used discord for limited socialization, discussing e.g. math in specific channels.

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            You don’t have to. Fork it, make it better. Crush the existing developers, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their Patreon donators.

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                It’s open source software. Forking and improving is a core feature.

                If people have a decent idea but a shit implementation, supercede them.

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              Sure. If you need software support, build a support system and get everyone else to use it. Makes perfect sense. I hope you live exclusively by this principal.

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                What? This is about documentation and maintenance of an open source project, this isn’t a SaaS situation.

                If your documentation sucks, you’re no better than the discord hell the original project came from.

                And yes, I only work with open source projects that are run well, or I fork them and maintain them for personal use.

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                    The one discord thing I do is mention I am making the fork, then spend the first while doing the documentation I wish existed. I set up the repo to accept issues and allow discussion.

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              Crush the existing developers, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their Patreon donators.

              Conan the Developer has spoken!

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          Well the specific context here is software projects using it as the platform for their community… So it’s kind of like going to a steakhouse and being given a fork and plunger to eat with. It makes sense to both complain about the steakhouse, and remark on the shortcomings of using a plunger for the purpose it was imposed on you for.

          Now of course, it’s wrong to say that Discord or a plunger are bad tools per se-- They are both occasionally useful for when I need to deal with some problematic shit. They are unpleasant, but I just hold my nose and thoroughly wash my hands after.

          Actually the plunger analogy tracks better than I expected.

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            To which I’m saying anyone who engages with discord in a project space that is silly. Creators and users. Software dev happens elsewhere. Fork it and make it better.

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              Fork… what? The software project that you’re trying to get help with? The problem isn’t that you need to change the code, the problem is that you want to be able to leverage the community.

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                Oh sorry are you not familiar with GitHub or other branching code managers?

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                    I understand it fine. People are intrigued by a useful project, only to find the junk devs run a discord for community engagement, issue tracking, devlog, and so on.

                    People feel helpless they they have to engage with discord in this way, because it is shit for that stuff.

                    People have no ability to self correct their experience, even though the system has built in features to allow them to improve the project by forking it and raising the standards.