"It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views," Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said on Tuesday.

“It is a complicated issue. It is truly a complicated issue, with a wide range of views, truly a wide range of views,” Jean-Pierre said. “There is no ‘yes or no’ answer to this, it is complicated. There is a rule that the Department of Education [DOE] has put forward, and we’re going to let that process move forward, and again, we want to make sure that while we establish guardrails with this rule, we also prevent discrimination, as well, against transgender kids. But again, a complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that.”

“Absolutely no reason for the Biden admin to do this,” New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wrote. “It is indefensible and embarrassing. The admin can still walk this back, and they should. It’s a disgrace.”

“Honestly, this move by Biden to push a rule on trans kids in sports is not only a backwards betrayal, it [forces] us to have to spend our time dealing with god d*** sports instead of criminal bans on our healthcare,” Alejandra Caraballo, a civil rights attorney and LGBTQ+ advocate, wrote. “He could have just done nothing. This is legitimizing transphobia.”

The mOsT PrOgReSsIvE Administration in History™ funny-clown-hammer “A complicated issue with a wide range of views, and we respect that” funny-clown-hammer Fuck off out of here with that “centrist” nonsense. There’s nothing complicated about it, and it’s not an issue unless you want to turn it into one and want to appeal to people’s emotions like Republicans are doing. It was only a matter of time before they’d start throwing trans people under the bus. I guess with the coming elections it’s as good a time as ever.

  • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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    1 year ago

    So, you think voting for a Republican or not voting is going to get the job done?

    • duderium [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Voting for Democrats means you are actually voting for Republicans because Democrats do whatever Republicans want, serve the same class, and are themselves Republicans. So not voting is actually harm reduction. Voting just helps Republicans.

    • Bruja [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Since I was eighteen, I have voted for a third party even when its chances were hopeless, if the main parties were unsatisfactory; or, in absence of a third choice, voted for the lesser of two evils.

      I could vote, but the election in which I could vote was a farce.

      I shall not go to the polls. I have not registered. I believe that democracy has so far disappeared in the United States that no “two evils” exist. There is but one evil party with two names, and it will be elected despite all I can do or say.

      This Administration is dominated and directed by wealth and for the accumulation of wealth. Corporate wealth profits as never before in history. We turn over the national resources to private profit and have few funds left for education, health or housing. We let men take wealth which is not theirs; if the seizure is “legal” we call it high profits and the profiteers help decide what is legal. If the theft is “illegal” the thief can fight it out in court, with excellent chances to win if he receives the accolade of the right newspapers.

      Gambling on the stock market is increasing and all prices are rising. It costs three times his salary to elect a Senator and many millions to elect a President. This money comes from the very corporations which today are the government. This in a real democracy would be enough to turn the party responsible out of power. Yet this we cannot do.

      I have no advice for others in this election. Are you voting Democratic? Well and good; all I ask is why? Are you voting for Biden and his smooth team of bright ghost writers? Again, why? Will your helpless vote either way support or restore democracy to America?

      Is the refusal to vote in this phony election a counsel of despair? No, it is dogged hope. It is hope that if millions of voters refrain from voting in 2024 because of their own accord and not because of a sly wink from Putin, this might make the American people ask how much longer this dumb farce can proceed without even a whimper of protest. Yet if we protest, off the nation goes to Russia and China.

      Fifty-five American philanthropists are asking China “to face manfully the doubts and promptings of their conscience.” Can not these do-gooders face their own consciences? Can they not see that American culture is rotting away: our honesty, our human sympathy; our literature, save what we import from abroad? Our manners are gone and the one thing we want is to be rich–to show off. Success is measured by income.

      University education is for income, not culture, and is partially supported by private industry. We are not training poets or musicians, but engineers. Business is built on successful lying called advertising. We want money in vast amount, no matter how we get it. So we have it, and what then?

      Is the answer the election of 2024? We can make a sick man President and set him to a job which would strain a man in robust health. So he dies, and what do we get to lead us? We remain in the same mess. I will be no party to it and that will make little difference. You will take large part and bravely march to the polls, and that also will make no difference.

      Stop running Russia and giving Chinese advice when we cannot rule ourselves decently. Stop yelling about a democracy we do not have. Democracy is dead in the United States. Yet there is still nothing to replace real democracy. Drop the chains, then, that bind our brains. Drive the money-changers from the seats of the Cabinet and the halls of Congress. Call back some faint spirit of Jefferson and Lincoln, and when again we can hold a fair election on real issues, let’s vote, and not till then. Is this impossible? Then democracy in America is impossible.

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      dubois-depressed

    • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netMEnglish
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      1 year ago

      no, democrats have demonstrated repeatedly that they are unwilling to do anything. you would be a fool to vote for them over and over again after seeing their incompetence and unwillingness to even slightly push back against the reactionary policies being enacted under biden

      • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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        1 year ago

        The Democratic Party has room for improvement, sure, but it’s also the only party with room for improvement. On this issue, not voting is the same as voting for a Republican. That surely won’t get you any improvement.

        • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          1 year ago

          The Democratic party doubled Trump’s deportation numbers, gave the police record funding and has now ceded trans rights to the right

          There is no room for improvement and no point in voting in national elections, we warned you motherfuckers but you didn’t listen, now eat shit dem

        • ZoomeristLeninist [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.netMEnglish
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          1 year ago

          no, not voting is just not voting. voting for the republican party is voting for the republican party. and from where im standing, the difference between dems and republicans is negligible. the dems arent offering any “improvement”

          • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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            1 year ago

            The Republicans are salivating over the prospect of you not voting. Exactly what they want.

            • GrumpigPoopBalls [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              1 year ago

              the dems are salivating over the prospect of useful idiots like you voting for them election after election after decades of failing to deliver on any of their promises because “it’s complicated.” Exactly what they want.

                • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  1 year ago

                  there’s a famous line that the US is a one party state but in typical American extravagance, we have two of them. both parties serve capital. you are not the core demographic of either party. they can and will fuck you over if it makes their benefactors a quick buck. the Republicans move the political needle rightwards and the Democrats act as a ratchet to prevent any kind of real left politics in this country. both parties must be destroyed.

    • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      1 year ago

      So you think that rewarding the Democrats for having the only standard be “Our senile, racist, rapist, corrupt, reactionary war criminal doesn’t have an orange spray tan” is going to “get the job done”? Or just the entire party being the polite, norms-respecting Republicans.

      • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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        1 year ago

        I think it’s the only party that does not vilify LGBTQ people, so I’ll keep voting for them for that reason and many others.

        • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          1 year ago

          You’re right. They are more of the Uvalde Cops to the Republicans school shooter. Even when they nominally have power they wont even rhetorically fight back, let alone use that power, to defend LGBTQ people in any way.

          • GiddyGap@lemm.eeEnglish
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            1 year ago

            I understand your frustration, but not voting or voting for a Republican will just make matter worse. There’s surely room for improvement among Democrats, but it’s also the only party with room for improvement.

            • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              1 year ago

              No, ignoring the extremely limited efficacy and right-wing bias of electoralism, their entire point is just being the “Not Republican Party”. As long as they can only offer that and nothing else, and still be electorally competitive, they never have to improve and will actively fight against improvement. Additionally, they actually do more to aid the Republicans and right-wing agenda as long as they are really ineffective and out-of-touch and in people’s minds voting for them is the only real opposition the Republicans, while constantly capitulating to Republicans on issues like trans rights. But ultimately, this is why the Republicans are much more responsive to what their base wants, since even if they are reactionary, and can somewhat generate the culture war issues, they are the only party offering a positive agenda. (Positive in the sense of a politics of making changes and advancing agendas rather than just saying that the other party is worse. Not saying their agenda is good, obviously)

              So, yes, there is some times, particularly on close elections or local elections where you can get improvement by voting Democrat over some Q-anon or MAGA psycho. But you also have to admit, especially with Federal elections, not voting for Democrats is not really making things worse or doing less “harm mitigation” than voting for a Biden, or whatever right-wing bigot the Democrats throw up next. Especially if, even on things like LGBTQ rights, they immediately capitulate and take the Republican position, just with more polite rhetoric.

    • silent_water [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      1 year ago

      yes, if the democrats won’t earn our votes, we’ll withhold them. it’s not like a democrat in office meaningfully slows down the pace of fascism.