The clock is ticking toward a deadline to meet renewable-energy standards. But USA TODAY's analysis finds local governments banning wind turbines, solar plants.

Across America, clean energy plants are being banned faster than they’re being built::The clock is ticking toward a deadline to meet renewable-energy standards. But USA TODAY’s analysis finds local governments banning wind turbines, solar plants.

  • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    11 months ago

    …but like, so do fossil fuels, you just don’t immediately see it. It’s lead to so much contamination and death you’ll never directly witness and is actively destroying everything vs “oh no, that pretty hill!”.

      • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
        111·
        11 months ago

        Well it does kill birds.

        No they don’t, birds neither like the noise or turbulence so they avoid them. Skyscrapers kill birds. This is decades-old and disproven FUD I hope you at least get money for peddling fossil fuel lobby talking points.

        And “oh no that pretty hill” will be ruined for all eternity, including future generations.

        Oh no! The Hill!

        What about the fucking rest of nature and the planet. Is that hill even high enough to still be above water in 100 years. Is it going to get eroded away by massive rainfall.

          • barsoap@lemm.eeEnglish
            101·
            11 months ago

            We already produce more than enough energy for ourselves.

            My state is also producing more than enough for ourselves. Being just as flat as Denmark (and bordering it) we send you tons of that energy to pump into hydrostorage to then export again. It’s practially all windpower.

            As to imports: if you don’t want to send us energy we’ll have to stop sending you steel and chemical products. Also Germany is a net exporter of electricity, I don’t like it either much of it is coal. Notable importer: France, with all their nuclear plants they have to shut down in the summer to not turn their rivers into bouillabaisse.

            dead birds

            Cats and buildings kill many orders of magnitude more birds than wind turbines

      • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
        61·
        11 months ago

        considering wind energy is very unreliable, only working when it’s windy.

        Saying “no” isn’t the solution to this. Solar and wind work together to cover each other’s flaws. The wind is often blowing when the sun isn’t shining, and vis-à-vis.

        At the next level, you can use historical weather data to calculate how much things will be in a lull where neither are producing. That gives you an idea of how much storage you need to cover it. The details depend on the region, but this is often much, much less than detractors are letting on.

      • fruitycoder@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Coal and nat gas also kill birds. Well basically any system that exhausts huge steam vats into the air just absolutely blast some birds.