Is there a way to seek out certain edibles effects like how is done with different flower strains for smoking? It seems like the edibles market in Arizona is far less diverse than flower and I’m wondering if it has to do with the effects of edibles in general? I generally want a product that will energize me and help with the creakyness I’ve developed over the years. I basically never seek out a mellowing high or a couch lock. Thank you for any help 😁

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    Edibles can be finicky, and a lot of it has to do with how your body metabolizes ingested THC. For example, my brother gets basically nothing out of edibles, while I feel strong, wildly different effects depending on the strain.

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      Ok so it’s not just me then? I can get pretty fucked out of 0.1g to 0.3g of vaped weed, but I have to choke on some heavy cannabutter to feel the effects. My girlfriend barely gets a buzz off vaped weed, but will get fucked by a few grams of the same cannabutter.

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      Is that why I sometimes wake up still high after taking an edible to fall asleep? I just assumed the dose per piece wasn’t as tightly controlled as they advertise.

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        I think this has to do with what type of edibles it is and how spread out it is through food.

        For example, if I eat a large brownie with 10mg in it, that’s going to basically have a time release effect if I don’t eat some more food with it or after it. I’ve taken brownies before that didn’t kick in until I had another snack or meal after. I think of it like pushing the edible through.

        So yeah I’d imagine if you took an edible a few hours before bed, ate no additional food, you’d probably feel it in the morning still.

        Tinctures seem to kick in fast no matter what I eat or drink after though.

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      It’s been my experience that people who claim edibles “don’t work for them” are just heavy flower smokers. Once I quit smoking, I had much better and more consistent experiences with edibles.

      I also find tinctures in seltzer or chocolates to be the best replacement for smoking because they seem to take effect faster than a brownie or cookie.

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          Tincture is easy to make. Get a cheap ounce or use some larf from a home grow and make some.

          I use the “cold green dragon” method, I think. It’s basically just grain alcohol and then you throw it in the freezer for 4 hours, strain it and then you can optionally evaporate off around half the alcohol by closing a coffee filter over the jar.

          Then grab some store brand seltzer and drop a milliliter of tincture in it, if you evaporate some of the alcohol you’ll barely taste it with a flavored seltzer.

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              I usually do some rough math but test in small amounts before settling on what I’d consider a comfortable dose for one can of seltzer. The seltzer is zero calories so you can always drink another.

              Let’s say the flower is 15% potent. There are 28.4 grams in an ounce. That means the amount of THC in that ounce is 28400mg * .15 = 4260mg.

              You’d soak that ounce in Everclear which is 180+ proof. They say it’s a 100% extraction rate. I usually use two cups of Everclear, but I don’t get both cups fully out.

              Assuming that you end up with 1 cup (237ml) of tincture that contains 4260mg, then the absolute max mg per ml of tincture is 4260 / 237 = 17.9mg of THC per ml of tincture.

              Then if you evaporated off half the alcohol over 3-4 weeks, you’d end up with (max of) 17.9mg of THC per .5 ml of tincture.

              In reality it’s probably less than that because some of the THC probably remains with the plant matter that you throw out, but it’s a good place to start to figure out what the absolute max would be.

              I usually do the above and just from personal experience I think .5ml is between 10-15mg and one seltzer with .5mg is usually good for me. It kicks in quicker than other edibles, you can always have another one.

              I try to keep it around .5ml per seltzer just so it doesn’t taste as much like alcohol. The freezer extraction method for four hours is quicker and safer than heat extractions and it apparently results in less-awful tasting tincture. Evaporation also improves the potency to alcohol ratio which improves the taste.

              Apparently you can let almost all the alcohol evaporate and then dilute the result with vegetable glycerin, but I haven’t tried that as it seems like the result is super difficult to work with if too much alcohol evaporates. You do have to stir the tincture before using because you can visibly see the potency settle at the bottom.