It’s insane the lengths that some people will go to save a few seconds on their commute, while also endangering others.

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      You’ll never get a real answer because the types of people that post these idiotic disingenuous complaints about speed cameras have nothing to say to the simple question:

      Why not just drive within the speed limit?

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        Or maybe I was just out during the day and didn’t have a chance to respond until now?

        I didn’t post a complaint about speed cameras and certainly not a disingenuous one at that. I was just pointing out an incorrect assumption made by an official quoted in the article.

        I do think it’s kinda silly that your response to the fact that cameras don’t have a means to control traffic or stop accidents is to ask why I don’t drive the speed limit.

        I do.

        And cameras still can’t stop me from getting into an accident.

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          And cameras still can’t stop me from getting into an accident.

          Are you stupid? The whole premise is that the risk of actual consequences will slow people down, which in turn reduced the risk of getting into an accident.

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            If traffic cameras worked to prevent traffic violations they wouldn’t be revenue streams. People would just rationally follow the traffic laws to avoid consequences. Yet, in the real world, we know it will only slow down the people who think about consequences.

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              If traffic cameras worked to prevent traffic violations they wouldn’t be revenue streams.

              They can be both lol. Prevent traffic violations for the people that care about the consequences, and a revenue stream from people that don’t.

              Yet, in the real world, we know it will only slow down the people who think about consequences.

              Better than nothing.

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                They literally can’t be both. If the camera is a revenue stream then people are constantly getting tickets, which means nothing has been solved.

                I don’t really care about motorists, but that doesn’t stop me from acknowledging these as a scam

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      Not really. Awareness of punishment does little to abate crime in general and while increasing the chances of getting caught (say by automatic cameras) does discourage crime in a meaningful way it does not prevent it.

      Even so, the camera itself is not offering protection. It has no mechanism to control traffic or stop an accident.

      I see this language far too often around cameras, but the fact remains they serve only to incriminate after the fact, not to prevent before the fact.

      If you want protection, reduce lane sizes, make drives less straight, install speed tables, incentive alternate arterial routes, make sure alternate forms of transportation are effective and available. Hell, install the cameras even, but don’t be dissolutioned that they are what is actually doing anything.

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        Speed cameras do work though. Here they are often used in specific places where people are driving too fast, especially if near schools and other places where it’s extra dangerous.

        For example close to where I live there is a steep hill with a road that goes straight down and after there is a completely straight road and then a really small bridge with a bump.

        Some people like to speed down the hill and basically “jump” the bridge bump. Fortunately a speed camera was installed at the bridge and they warn about it well in advance.

        While you could technically redesign the road, it would be very costly compared to a camera and that road is a very small road with low traffic and private farmland (or grazing land, I don’t remember) on both sides.

        Here the cameras aren’t even activated all the time just enough to achieve their goal of reducing traffic.