Used to work at a pretty secure place. Each button had a small screen on it, and the numbers were randomized. So apparently this is an actual concern.
Scramble pads. We have them where I work. Damn password can change a few times a week without warning. Gone for lunch? Well good luck getting back in until reception comes back to tell you the new code.
Had this once at a retail store while paying. Entering PIN without muscle memory. … Weird and almost made 3 errors which would have blocked my card.
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Those also prevent observers from being able to learn the code by watching someone type it in from a distance.
That’s smart, but probably frustrating as an authorized user.
iirc this is a GrapheneOS feature too
I’ve seen this on payment terminals too. It’s real annoying when you’re used to do the same motion all the time. But safer obviously.
I wonder if this is a problem for dyslexia?
Plot twist : code is 8253, … and prints are false flags :o)
This works.
In Eve Online there was this big war, and a big ship was being built in some station. So everyone gathered around the station to protect it, and of course the enemy came after it. A huge battle ensued and in the end the station was destroyed successfully.
Except the ship wasn’t in that station, it was being built at another station, the defenders just mislead them by protecting a random empty station. The ship finished its construction later that month.
Shit like this makes me wish I had a headstart on PC gaming. That stuff sounds so fun to take part in
Go run doen the eve online stories. People have gone under cover in enemy groups for years, just to rise in the ranks until they can just plunder the whole org for the equivalent of tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
I think there was even a guild in the game the specialized on long con espionage called like “the crimson rose” or some such.
The game itself is basically excel, but the “player generated” environment is an epic story generator.
I mean, EVE hasn’t gone anywhere, it still has a large and active playerbase, there’s nothing stopping you from joining now.
There could be another eve like mmo, who knows
Huh, which battle is that? It isn’t the BR-5RB battle that keeps giving more story tidbits still over all those years, is it?
It was during that war yeah. That system was just what initiated it all.
Ah, thanks. Cool to still hear more stuff about it.
I believe this technique is called a “honeypot” in cyper security. Im addition, the honeypot would also gather as much info as possible about the visitors i.e. any potential hacker.
Nah, you definitely have to use one or two of the worn ones just so it’s impossible to narrow down which ones.
You can even tell that the 1 is touched more often on the top, meaning it is ‘the top’ one. Then 9 on the top as well, meaning you probably came from the top when moving 1 to 9. Then 7 is damaged on the left, probably because you come from the 9 on the right. Then apparently everyone just punches the shit out of 0 I dunno.
I bet everyone remember the first two digits correctly but once in a while makes mistakes in the last two digits. So first two digits gets pressed more often. Although I don’t see any discoloration in other buttons, so maybe not.
All these comments and speculation on what the code might be. But it’s irrelevant.
The light is green, the door is already open
Bonus: Address of the building is 1790.
That was how the code to my grandpa’s ward worked. If you could remember the street address, you knew the code to get out of the Alzheimer’s wing.
Or year of construction or company start was 1970.
That’s definitely the worst keypad wear I’ve ever seen :D
They actually make versions these days where a display randomises the numbers, so that it doesn’t form a discernible wear pattern.
Of course, you do have to wonder if this is actually a thing to be worried about, or rather something we all ‘know’ from spy movies. Usually the easiest way to bypass these is to just walk in after someone…
Guy in highlighter vest:“Hey buddy can you hold the door?”
90% success rate
It’s silly but it’s true. Especially if you’ve got a package, a ladder, etc. Nobody’s going to hassle a dude carrying a ladder because he’s clearly Doing Something Important.
When it’s a regular old apartment building you don’t even need that. You can just wait until someone walks in and just follow them through. Happens all the time. Which is why I make sure to always pull security doors closed behind me. I’d rather not be the cause of a break-in or worse.
Even if you know someone usually belongs there, it can still be dangerous. Example, at a place I used to work someone got fired for stalking. A few days later they came into the workplace and someone else held the door open for them. Luckily the person they were trying to stalk wasn’t there. Idk how that would have turned out if they were 😳
I used to geocache a LOT years ago, don’t do as much now. But it was crazy how much people would ignore whatever weird thing you were doing if you had a high-vis vest, clipboard, and hardhat. I used to joke you could damn-near walk in anywhere and nobody would blink.
I learned that while buying tobacco products while underage.
If you walk in and act like you do this everyday you’re less likely to get carded.
Act like you belong
Yep, somebody with a vest like that tried to steal my phone through the bus window, took me by surprise since they make it seem like you are employed somewhere.
Why hitman is the most plausible stealth game, even though it has it’s own shenanigans too.
*me, a bald white man dressed in Chinese clothes pretending to be a Chinese gang member*
Nobody suspects a thing…
Or buy a pizza bag online.
I once worked in a SCIF and (with one exception in the morning where a security officer could just check your ID card to speed it along) even if there was a large group of people entering every single one needed to close the security door behind them and let the next person use their key. If someone, especially someone you don’t recognize, asked you to hold the door you were supposed to say “no” and inform a security officer.
That’s comforting.
I used to work in a testing lab that housed a lot of prototypes for other companies so we did the same, didn’t recognize someone we closed the door behind us as we went it.
Fun getting yelled at by strangers for not holding the door, bit at least security was right next to the door to ask who they were.
Plot twist: it explodes after 3 wrong guesses.
It looks like it already has a couple of times already.
Is it 010119700000 or 197001010000?
Most likely 1970
Start of the Unix epoche, everybody could have social engineered that. 😁
Happy 54th birthday soon
hmmm, I think I might “wear” out some numbers on my pad. Not the ones used but if I make it look this obvious I should drastically increase the resistance to general attack as no one could pass this attack up.
The newer keypads make you touch two random numbers before you can enter the code, to prevent this very problem.
I aint paying for fancy keypads.
The 90s…
The SEVENTEEN 90s, that is…
Hint: the beginning of time
I once knew a guy that was really stupid. He got angry very quickly and had no patience for anything.
He had a lock on the button for his garage door opener that was a slider switch, he caved it in because he pressed it really hard instead of just looking and seeing that it’s a slider switch
Obviously this isn’t on Liberty Island or 0 1 4 and 5 would be all worn down.
That’s still 256 possible combinations. Isn’t it?
Assuming 4 digit password it’s 4 factorial, 24 combinations
unless the length is fixed, e.g. 4 chars (in which case there can’t be repeating characters)
