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    11 months ago

    I don’t see how anyone who’s paying attention to anything still believes in a god worth worshipping, if any god at all.

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      11 months ago

      Ironically, it’s probably in part due to how shit the world is you hope there is a god.

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        They didn’t say they’d like for life be without a worship-worthy god. They said they’re not sure why so many people think that there’s a god worth worshipping.

        By itself, their comment is really just statement of belief, not a statement of preference.

        I think this is their reasoning for that position: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

        For a more detailed explanation of the reasoning: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil

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          11 months ago

          There was also a comment “if any god at all.” I am very familiar with theodicy questioms and euthyphro questions. And it’s not a new concept that end times mentality or need for salvation in dire times actually can push some people to religion.

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            11 months ago

            “If any god at all” in that context implies the person has doubt in the existence of any god. This again is not a statement of preference. One can be an atheist and happy with their beliefs or unhappy with them.

            I just don’t see anywhere that the person said they’d like for things to be that way. They could easily be very unhappy at a disbelief in a god for all we know.

            Said another way: just because I don’t believe I’ll ever be a millionaire doesn’t mean I’d prefer never to be one.

            EDIT: I want to acknowledge that many people get strength and relief from their faiths and beliefs. And I would like to acknowledge that people’s happiness and comfort in a difficult world is a very good thing.

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              11 months ago

              I don’t think we are in disagreement. Just misunderstanding what specifically I was responding to. Also, my account or description isn’t a justification for this type of belief. But the reality is some people do become more religious in times of struggle. Not sure why I’m being downvoted for that.

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                11 months ago

                I now realize I completely misread your original statement. In light of that, my previous replies don’t make any sense. I actually agree with what you said, I think I just didn’t comprehend it the way it was intended.

                I think I’ve read somewhere that strife increases religiosity. I’d say it’s a very defensible stance. I think it’s also defensible that the religiosity sadly causes strife, too. The world would be better off if certain common religious ideas would be abandoned.