Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) bashed former President Trump online and said Christians who support him ā€œdonā€™t understandā€ their religion.

ā€œIā€™m going to go out on a NOT limb here: this man is not a Christian,ā€ Kinzinger said on X, formerly known as Twitter, responding to Trumpā€™s Christmas post. ā€œIf you are a Christian who supports him you donā€™t understand your own religion.ā€

Kinzinger, one of Trumpā€™s fiercest critics in the GOP, said in his post that ā€œTrump is weak, meager, smelly, victim-ey, belly-achey, but he ainā€™t a Christian and heā€™s not ā€˜Godā€™s man.ā€™ā€

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    I was going to sayā€¦ Has this rhetorical move ever convinced anyone of anything? I see Republicans pull it all the time on minority groups. ā€œUh, actually, all you black democrat voters are on a plantation and its not in your best interests to vote consistently for a single party.ā€ And then, when it comes time for the GOP to put up or shut up, the best candidates they can produce are Herman Cain and Tim Scott.

    Meanwhile, youā€™ve got a bunch of Cafeteria Catholics from Rhode Island tut-tutting the Evangelicals down in Texas who have convinced themselves that the End of Days is right around the corner, because Donald Trump has fucked more children than your average priest. Nah, dude. That wonā€™t work any better than your boy Beto saying heā€™s going to take everyoneā€™s guns. Theyā€™re not listening to you any more than youā€™re listening to Ben Shapiro call our California for hosting too many gay teen abortion parades.

    The folks who pop off with these ā€œBy your own logicā€¦ā€ retorts are inevitably just preaching to their own choirs. Thatā€™s before they get back to the import Congressional business of gutting public education and exporting another billion dollars of cluster bombs into the Middle East.

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      No. It hasnā€™t, and it never will.

      You canā€™t shake a belief. You can change an idea, you can rationalize with opinions. But once itā€™s a belief, nothing short of a world shattering hardship or literally putting them through the same treatment that you give to cult members is going to break them out of it.

      These people have built a belief system that puts them at the top, no matter what branch of Christianity youā€™re looking at, youā€™re looking at the most righteous, the most correct, the most justified in their actions. If someone says to them ā€œhey youā€™ve got it wrongā€ then clearly the only rational explanation is that no, you actually.

      This isnā€™t unique to Christianity, not by a long shot. Most religious systems do this. But Christianity is the unique problem we have.

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        This isnā€™t unique to Christianity, not by a long shot.

        In order to believe that, youā€™d have to believe Christianity really was magic. Nah, its an ingrained feature of the human psyche. One reason why ā€œgetā€™m while theyā€™re youngā€ is such an effective movement-building strategy.

        But Christianity is the unique problem we have.

        Even within the greater sphere of Christianity, there are plenty of people who hold very benign beliefs. Meanwhile, being not-Christian doesnā€™t seem to spare you from the brain poisoning. Hell, within the atheist community, weā€™ve got more than a few freaks and weirdos, too. At some level, this is far more about a particular brand of western ideology - a fundamentally fascist bent in social organization - that effectively drives people insane.