- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
- cross-posted to:
- privacy@programming.dev
Grok, Elon Musk’s AI chatbot, has exposed hundreds of thousands of private user conversations through Google search indexing. When users click the “share” button to create a URL for sharing their chat, the conversation becomes publicly searchable - often without users realizing it[1][2].
Google has indexed over 370,000 Grok conversations, including sensitive content like medical questions, personal information, and at least one password[2:1]. Unlike OpenAI’s ChatGPT, which quickly removed a similar feature after backlash, Grok’s share function does not include any warning that conversations will become public[3].
According to Forbes, some marketers are already exploiting this feature by intentionally creating Grok conversations to manipulate search engine rankings for their businesses[2:2].
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They really don’t know what robots.txt is do they…
Oh my, who could have seen this coming? Who would have thought that using chatbot services from publicly traded companies, who work with data brokers, would index THIS data? Aw jeez… (/s)
I certainly did NAZI this coming
The only AI which I use is Andi, because it’s the only one really usefull, private and anonym I found until now. Search contents don’t appears even in your browser history.
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Seriously?
The only private AI is self-hosted.
Yes, but if you don’t have a big server for an decent LLM, it’s more private, but notmore reliable as the paleolitic MS Clippy. Andi is currently the most reliable and private AI, made by a small startup pissed of the big corporations and the surveillance, the reason why are the first which want to use the AI for searches long before any other, with an own independent LLM, centerd in reliable sources and answers, contrasted in several sources. In change to others it don’t invent nothing, if it find an answer it offers an traditional websearch. All anonym, with random proxie, no logs, no tracking, no ads, no coolies, no limits, no account. Eg. permits to watch YT videos in the search result, without ads, as said, works even as YT front end,which other search engine can do this? Try it, I use it now since more than 3 years and as said, I don’t regret it.
This is my point: if you can’t afford a server powerful enough then don’t use an AI.
If you can’t afford a server but use an AI you have to accept some compromises. One of those is to be spied on. The true question isn’t to use AI but to accept to be heard, recorded, analysed, and perhaps used against you.
A start-up is a company which hopes to be bought by a bigger one. To be bought at the higher price, they need to have something a big company would like to have. Like data. Especially since those companies are cutting corners to reach the market and survive.
Some aren’t bought but it’s not the majority.
Naturally the first question is, how they make money. There are several options how they can do it. There are mainly two manners, the ethical and the unetical way. The unethical way is, to recive money from several companies to push determinated results, SEO positionings, to profile the user, selling private data to advertising companies…, or the ethical way which don’t compromete the user privacy, offering an paid pro version, contextual ads, revenue by some shops when the user buy something using the service…
Andi’s business model
https://andisearch.com/business/
Excluding of business models apps and services fom non-lucrative organizacions and hobby projects, good example of the last is the SSuite, made by two electricians which gain their money with the owned electric workshop, nothing to do with programming.
I don’t use AI since I prefer learning, but from what I’ve heard, it’s self-hosting or bust.
If you really really want/need an LLM for some reason, install ollama. It’s the only safe and easy way to do it.
Except for alpaca and llama.cpp and some other options.
Really? OpenAI and Deepseek used are from Google, that meaans also, even if it is installed locally it also act online, same as other searches. You can’t run an complex LLM only locally in a crappy PC, what you run is an desktop client of the LLM, don’t confuse it.
Proton recently released an AI chatbot, though it is not really doing the same thing as Andi.
My LOL is hearty and from the belly, with rich notes of schadenfreude
Who would have thought that an AI that calls itself MechaHitler and developed by a Nazi would be evil 🤔
