• Zorg@lemmings.world
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      11 months ago

      Neither side is ‘good’ or remotely acts like it in this conflict/war. The only good guys around are the medics & doctors trying to keep people from dying, volunteers trying to keep people from dying of lack of food/water/warmth; and of course all the innocent civilians who are caught up in this clusterfuck.

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        The only good guys around are the medics & doctors trying to keep people from dying

        Naw, these people are bad too, it turns out. These people are willing to lie to everyone to preserve their access to Gaza and the flow of UN aid.

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          11 months ago

          And that’s bad because? Even assuming that’s true, the fact that they need to lie to get aid into Gaza is the problem.

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            11 months ago

            I think it’s bad when people who claim neutrality in a conflict are actually aiding one side of the conflict, and lying about it. Israel would be justified, in this situation, in treating them as spies.

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                11 months ago

                Spies on the side of the guys who rape 13-year-old girls with knives aren’t the “good guys” in any fucking universe.

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                  11 months ago

                  Setting aside the veracity of that accusation, medical personnel can only be interpreted as on the side of civilians. It just happens that the interests of civilians (not dying) happen to go against the interests of Israel (killing civilians and taking their lands).

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                    11 months ago

                    Well, no; if medical personnel are taking affirmative, supportive actions for one of the combatants - as its been proved many medical staff are doing on behalf of Hamas - but are doing so under the false guise of neutrality, then they’re spies under the Geneva Conventions and can be shot when captured.

                    “We had to work with Hamas in order to have access to their civilians” isn’t a sufficient defense to that. There are already rules about access to civilians that Hamas can be demanded to follow; you don’t actually have to join Hamas in order to access Gazan civilians.

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        11 months ago

        The only good guys around are the medics & doctors trying to keep people from dying

        Then why aren’t they demanding Hamas GTFO of their hospitals and schools? You’re so close.

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          How do you know they’re not? They aren’t the military and would have no way to actually do anything about it.

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          Yeah, I wonder why they don’t demand that the GUYS WITH THE WEAPONS get the fuck out or else.

          And I’m not saying whether the population agrees or not with Hamas, I’m just saying that “GTFO” is not an option.