https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/movies/best-movies-21st-century.html

96. Black Panther (Ryan Coogler, 2018)

There’s so much to love. It’s a superhero spectacle that actually has something important to say, about how identity, history and responsibility intersect. Wakanda, the Afrofuturistic world where the story takes place, is a visual wonder. The women (played by Angela Bassett, Danai Gurira, Lupita Nyong’o and Letitia Wright — all excellent) aren’t just sidekicks or love interests. Michael B. Jordan, as the tragically villainous Killmonger, has never been more swoon worthy. And, of course, Chadwick Boseman shines in the title role, sadly one of his last before dying of cancer.

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    That’s there take. I think context and audience makes a huge difference, so I’d rank it higher.

    I remember the experience. I watched it at the Rave Cinema at the Baldwin-Crenshaw mall, in Leimert Park. And let me tell you: the theater was so fucking amped. This theater was built by Magic Johnson in a part of LA that hadn’t had a nice theater, and it’s held up well. The neighborhood has really come up around it, too, so when Black Panther played, it was filled with folks dressed to the nines. There was LA street fashion, Panafrican garb, kids grown-ups, elders… The movie was good to start with, but it was just hard not to get caught up in the energy in the air. It truly was an event.

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    For me, the awful fight at the end tanked it for me. Other than that, it was the typical Marvel formula, nothing really remarkable other than being set in Africa.

    Spider-Man: No Way Home was a better movie, so was Into The Spider-Verse for that matter.

    Oh, shit, Logan doesn’t rank?

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      I soured on it when a guy shows up to this hyper advanced, futuristic, utopian society and goes, “I challenge the king to combat, and you have to let me do it, and then when I win, you have to make me king.” And everyone just shrugs like “Welp, thems the rules. Nothing we can do about it.”

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      It’s weird, Black Panther doesn’t scratch my top 5 MCU movies. It wasn’t even the best black lead superhero movie of the same year. Into the Spider-Verse is probably in my top 10 movies.

      But BP was undoubtedly one of the more culturally impactful movies in the MCU.

      But then again, Deadpool 1 and 2 are great movies that have been culturally impactful. But critics don’t want to admit that.

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        Into the Spider-verse absolutely deserves a spot on this list.

        The only animated films on this list are Spirited Away, Wall-e, Up & Ratatouille.

        Ratatouille definitely doesn’t deserve a spot, it’s good but it’s so far below many other films. Wall-e I’m onboard with but Up, while having an excellent intro, both immediately and setup, is just ok in the second half.

        Inside out? Incredibles? That’s what I would have expected for Pixar films.

        Plus, I know it’s memed to death but Shrek should absolutely be on the list.

        But, going back, if I get one animated films, Spider-verse is where I go. Hell I’d probably put both Spider-verse films on this list.

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      Spider-Man: No Way Home was a better movie

      How? A good movie needs to be more than 'member berries.

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        It breaks out of the typical Marvel formula, Black Panther doesn’t.

        Marvel formula:

        Main character shares a tragic backstory with the villain who turns into a bigger, badder version of the hero.

        Iron Man - Iron Monger
        Hulk - Abomination
        Iron Man - Whiplash
        Thor - Loki
        Captain America - Red Skull

        Iron Man - Extremis
        Thor - Malekith
        Captain America - Winter Soldier
        Avengers - Ultron
        Ant-Man - Yellowjacket

        Avengers - Avengers (Civil War)
        Doctor Strange - Kaecilius
        Star Lord - The Living Planet (his dad!)
        Spider-Man - Vulture
        Thor - Hela
        Black Panther - Killmonger

        I mean, you can’t exactly fault Marvel for running the formula over and over again when every time they run it, it makes a billion dollars.

        But by the time Black Panther came out, you could count on one hand the times they didn’t run the formula:

        The Avengers
        Guardians of the Galaxy

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        The choice Peter makes to sacrifice his relationships is unique and works better due to the previous movies. Same with Aunt May dying, it works better when you’ve gotten to know her.

        The member berries help though.

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    there’s not a whole lot truly different between most of the superhero movies though. I guess hot warrior ladies and the man in the skinsuit is cat themed?

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        Uh huh. The same story. In the same ways. With the same lines, beats, set pieces, and token nods to source or prior films. It’s formulaic as fuck, intentionally so by the mass surveying audience tested averaging out of studios. This is a machine that repackages your childhood into consumable, repeatable, manufacturable content, not art.

        I’m not saying don’t enjoy it, but saying any superhero film from the last 20 years hasn’t had studio’s by-the-book vogler story in a can approach is consuming with blinkers on.

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          For most people under 30, they didn’t read the original comics, so I would hardly call it “repackaging their childhood”. And no, it’s not the same story. I’ll use the Guardians of the Galaxy films as an example:

          • GotG 1 is a pretty standard story about the unlikely group of heroes learning to work together, mixed with Peter learning to confront his problems rather than run away from them
          • GotG 2 deals with the disillusionment of meeting your heroes and Peter must make a choice to give up literal godhood for moral reasons, choosing his adopted father over his birth one
          • GotG 3 is about Rocket confronting his past and accepting who he is, which he had struggled with for both previous films

          These stories aren’t unique from every other story ever told. But they are different from each other. And art is very subjective; you don’t have the authority to declare something not art without a good argument.

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      ‘More like DEI Panther, amirite?’ (/s)

      I honestly don’t see why that’s better than some other Marvel properties, but I don’t mind it’s inclusion in the list. Maybe that it touches on actual world problems instead of just fake ones made up for the movie. And yeah, I’m American but a dissenting one.