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    Honestly in a drawn out conflict that’s probably what would happen. After awhile Iran would run low on its advanced systems, and it would just be Iranians using guerilla tactics and small arms to make the Americans bleed for every inch. Shoulder mounted AA, Rifles/ammo, and food in plentiful supply from China/Russia would be all Iran needed to win probably. Maybe some quadcopter drone systems from DJI they could strap explosives to, and fly into American positions. They have a great terrain advantage, and plenty of underground infrastucture to operate out of. It’s why America doesn’t want to go in. It would be worse than Vietnam for them.

    Theres really no way the US could win imo. At first it would look like the US was winning. They’d probably occupy the oil ports, and Tehran pretty quickly. Taking heavy losses sure, but they’d spin it as a win in their media. But over the months/years to come they’d lose more, and more people, and equipment. The Iranians would be spread throughout the mountains and harrassing them everywhere. Eventually the US would have no choice but to pull out. If they can’t hold Afghanistan then they certainly wouldn’t be able to hold Iran.

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      In that scenario the aid would be very important ya. I meant before getting to anything that catastrophic at all. That’s a really interesting train of thought but I’m really leery about all this until I have a super ironclad understanding of the historical forces at work. This is mostly an effort to find good educational material

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        I think one of the best things to study in regard to it is Afghanistan. Very similar terrain and Iran is like a bigger, more advanced version of it in many ways. Theres a lot of info on how much the Americans struggled in Afghanistan and i think those problems would be much worse for them in Iran.

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          You got any recs? Open source social media is cool in theory but in practice it’s hard to steal other people’s reading and music libraries compared to Xitter and DiSSkkkord

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            I’ll list some books that might be interesting. Keep in mind many of these will be written from an American perspective so will have biases in how they frame information, but if your able to ignore that, and simply get the information about the US’s failures from them it can be useful info.

            The Afghanistan Papers: A Secret History of the War by Craig Whitlock contains info from internal US documents so take with a grain of salt, but it shows a lot of the mistakes the US made

            No Good Men Among the Living: America, the Taliban, and the War through Afghan Eyes by Anand Gopal Gets into how the US’s actions directly led to their own defeat by empowering the Taliban. Has a lot more actual Afghan perspective.

            Kill Chain: The Rise of the High-Tech Assassins by Andrew Cockburn This one gets into how the illusion that high levels of tech will make wars easier to win is just that. an illusion. Focused more on the US’s strategic errors.

            Dirty Wars: The World Is a Battlefield by Jeremy Scahill This is only partially about afghanistan but gets into how special foces actions contributed to destabilization.

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              Thanks for the recommendations I will be in touch

              I know how to treat Scahill’s writing 🪓😄 though he is useful