The only threat to this burgeoning community is the same old divide & collapse nonsense that separates citizens under their overlords everywhere.

I would create accounts and start calling to defederate instances which allow non-polite (or politically incorrect or otherwise offensive) communities.

We didn’t just survive the trolls on reddit. We thrived amongst them. We can handle them. We can block them.

I want curatorial tools to curate my own feed. I absolutely 100% do NOT want any admins telling me what I can’t read. And going to another instance is no solution if that instance is blocked.

I don’t want to be on a purely polite ecosystem, or a purely right-wing-idiot ecosystem. I want access to everybody, and the tools to curate that experience.

The trolls do NOT have the power to take us down. But the admins definitely do.

Welcome to the Defediverse.

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    Again, people who don’t agree with the way an instance is managed can just take their luggage and leave for an instance they prefer or they can create their own instance.

    We can toss this right back at you. If you’re all for defederating anything you don’t like, there’s other instances to use.

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      Well I’m the one calling for respecting the will of the admin which is that the instance be managed democratically, I’m not the one complaining that defederation is bad after people voted in majority in favor of defederating an alt right instance. It’s not about what I don’t like, it’s about what the majority wants, which seems to go against your opinion but in favor of mine so I don’t know why I should be leaving 🤷

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        Our complaints are part of an ongoing conversation about the future of the fediverse. This is a super important moment, and this is the right time for us to flesh out all the little details in our arguments. It’s fine for you to disagree, but it’s weird for you to jump in and complain about the fact that we’re sharing our opinions.

        We’re not exactly doing a mutiny or anything. We are sharing our opinions on a forum.

        You’re literally and explicitly intolerant.

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          The way this instance is managed has been decided already and you don’t agree with it, it’s that simple. There’s no discussion to be had since you’re in favor of removing a right the admin gave the users (voting to defederate an instance). Take your pick, there’s plenty of other instances to choose from and worst case create your own with your own rules.

          And no we’re not having a conversation about the future of the fediverse since you’re expressing an uninformed opinion because you don’t understand decentralization. Deciding the future of the fediverse would require centralization, the whole point is that each part can go in whatever direction it goes, no one can decide how the whole thing should work. If that’s what you want then go back to Reddit and apply for an admin job, then you can discuss with people who have power over the direction a whole semi-decentralized system goes.

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            You are… taking part in the conversation with me. So you do think there’s a conversation to be had. And this whole site is a conversation site.

            You’re worked up. Relax. I haven’t hurt you.

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        it’s about what the majority wants, which seems to go against your opinion but in favor of mine

        You sure about that? You’re one of the main people that was pushing to defederate exploding-heads, which clearly hasn’t happened. Please elaborate how you’re “in the majority”

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          A vote took place and defederation won. As for why it hasn’t happened yet? Go ask The Dude, he seemed keen on defederating Lemmygrad but not so much an alt-right instance.