Thatās not true and also itās not the reason. We just donāt drink a lot of tea. Thereās not a huge reason to own an electric kettle unless youāre drinking a lot of tea. Itās still much faster than a stovetop kettle.
My family (American) did drink a lot of tea. Surprise surprise, we had a kettle. I did not die of old age from the cumulative weight of all that waiting.
No it really wasnāt. āI donāt know much about their gridā means the next āitā in the comment is referring to ātheir gridā. No ambiguity to be had, friend.
Iāve actually timed my kettle. 15 ounces of water(I have larger mugs than ānormalā) takes 2 minutes and 34 seconds to be a full rolling boil. Iām really not that concerned.
Pretty much every person I know in Canada has an electric kettle and every single office Iāve worked in has one, my kitchen has 15a outlets which is still 1800W. I have a simple gooseneck kettle that I usw mainly for coffee, itās only 1kW and holds around 750ml, itās not blisteringly fast but itās boiled before Iāve ground my coffee.
The whole ā120v is holding us back from having kettlesā is way overblown (technology connections has a video on electric kettles).
1800W are not out of the ordinary for water cookers in Europe but thatās definitely on the weak side. 3000 to 3200 is usually the maximum, probably because pulling the full 3600W would drastically increase the chances of tripping a fuse. My food processor is 600W and I might want to make a coffee while kneading dough.
Our grid uses the same voltages as Europe. Our houses even generally receive 240V from the line. Itās just that we went with 120V for most appliances and electronics for some reason.
Iād also argue a lot of Americans technically do have electric kettles, and they just donāt realize it because theyāre advertised as coffee makers. Itās not ideal, but you can definitely use a drip coffee machine to boil water, and itāll still be faster than a stove.
Unfortunately for every tea drinker in an American hotel, most coffee makers (at least the drip kind) will make any water boiled inside taste like coffee, unless theyāve been used exclusively for plain boiled water. Maybe a combo tea/coffee drinker wouldnāt mind, but Iāve always found it intolerable.
But itās a good point about the grid - we have plenty of appliances for coffee that are principally glorified water boilers, and thereās no evidence that our appliance voltage has hampered their popularity at all.
it really doesnāt. european houses generally receive 400V from the line, split into 3 220V phases. you guys get two 120V phases that are fully phase-shifted, rather than 120Ā° offset, and you bridge two phases to get 240 for heavy appliances.
Itās mostly for commercial installations, but you can get 3-phase 480V here if you want it.
I donāt think this has much to do with the grid, though. Itās more that we started with 120V appliances, so thatās what we built our homes to support.
Edison distributed Ā±110V DC against neutral, three wires, your AC system was designed to use those exact wires, then you expanded that compromise to the whole continent.
Europe in the beginning also had those small insular installations with odd systems but once it came to actually hooking up whole countries everyone opted for three-phase because itās the most sensible option. Whether or not the distribution network itself uses three conductors (just the phases) or four (plus neutral, or combined earth+neutral) differs quite wildly. Train electricity is still a clusterfuck.
their shitty electrical grid means kettles take like double the time to boil.
Thatās not true and also itās not the reason. We just donāt drink a lot of tea. Thereās not a huge reason to own an electric kettle unless youāre drinking a lot of tea. Itās still much faster than a stovetop kettle.
Great video on this from technology connections. tl;dr it takes more time, but not, like, that much more. We mostly just donāt have a huge tea-drinking culture here.
My family (American) did drink a lot of tea. Surprise surprise, we had a kettle. I did not die of old age from the cumulative weight of all that waiting.
ā¦you donāt brew your coffee hot?
Not yet. Just you wait.
chronic exposure to time dramatically increases your chances of getting terminally old.
So why does Japan at 100V have electric kettles everywhere? Itās a cultural reason not the electrical grid.
good point! i donāt know much about their grid, only that itās 50Hz in the west and 60Hz in the east.
Iāve never heard of anywhere in US using 50Hz and Iāve lived on the West Coast my whole life.
I love that youāve come into a discussion about Japanās electrical grid and still assumed that the conversation is about America.
I mean, the conversation started about Americaās electric grid. It was ambiguous from context.
No it really wasnāt. āI donāt know much about their gridā means the next āitā in the comment is referring to ātheir gridā. No ambiguity to be had, friend.
that may be because we were talking about japan!
Not that East and West, the East and West.
Iāve actually timed my kettle. 15 ounces of water(I have larger mugs than ānormalā) takes 2 minutes and 34 seconds to be a full rolling boil. Iām really not that concerned.
Pretty much every person I know in Canada has an electric kettle and every single office Iāve worked in has one, my kitchen has 15a outlets which is still 1800W. I have a simple gooseneck kettle that I usw mainly for coffee, itās only 1kW and holds around 750ml, itās not blisteringly fast but itās boiled before Iāve ground my coffee.
The whole ā120v is holding us back from having kettlesā is way overblown (technology connections has a video on electric kettles).
1800W are not out of the ordinary for water cookers in Europe but thatās definitely on the weak side. 3000 to 3200 is usually the maximum, probably because pulling the full 3600W would drastically increase the chances of tripping a fuse. My food processor is 600W and I might want to make a coffee while kneading dough.
Our grid uses the same voltages as Europe. Our houses even generally receive 240V from the line. Itās just that we went with 120V for most appliances and electronics for some reason.
Iād also argue a lot of Americans technically do have electric kettles, and they just donāt realize it because theyāre advertised as coffee makers. Itās not ideal, but you can definitely use a drip coffee machine to boil water, and itāll still be faster than a stove.
Unfortunately for every tea drinker in an American hotel, most coffee makers (at least the drip kind) will make any water boiled inside taste like coffee, unless theyāve been used exclusively for plain boiled water. Maybe a combo tea/coffee drinker wouldnāt mind, but Iāve always found it intolerable.
But itās a good point about the grid - we have plenty of appliances for coffee that are principally glorified water boilers, and thereās no evidence that our appliance voltage has hampered their popularity at all.
it really doesnāt. european houses generally receive 400V from the line, split into 3 220V phases. you guys get two 120V phases that are fully phase-shifted, rather than 120Ā° offset, and you bridge two phases to get 240 for heavy appliances.
Itās mostly for commercial installations, but you can get 3-phase 480V here if you want it.
I donāt think this has much to do with the grid, though. Itās more that we started with 120V appliances, so thatās what we built our homes to support.
Edison distributed Ā±110V DC against neutral, three wires, your AC system was designed to use those exact wires, then you expanded that compromise to the whole continent.
Europe in the beginning also had those small insular installations with odd systems but once it came to actually hooking up whole countries everyone opted for three-phase because itās the most sensible option. Whether or not the distribution network itself uses three conductors (just the phases) or four (plus neutral, or combined earth+neutral) differs quite wildly. Train electricity is still a clusterfuck.
Itās still just a few minutes. Donāt heat up more water than you are going to use.
not true, thatās a myth
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