They are citing ONS figures of excess deaths as proof the vaccines are killing people. I tried to explain that not being able to get a doctor’s appointment, staying home and getting fat, etc explain the figures (official sources have said it too) but they said it’s “gaslighting” and then said their family doctor wouldn’t get the vaccine.
I love this popular and ass-backwards depiction of medical research because in reality it’s boring af sitting around in some clinic, they probably draw some blood and you’re free to go after an hour with a stipend.