Mozilla Turns Firefox Towards Spyware: Firefox Labs Now Requires Data Collection
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TL;DR: Mozilla is now enforcing data collection as a pre-requisite to access new features in Firefox Labs. This is backed by the Terms of Use that Mozilla introduced a few months ago.

TL;DR: Mozilla is now enforcing data collection as a pre-requisite to access new features in Firefox Labs. This is backed by the Terms of Use that Mozilla introduced a few months ago.

  • LWD@lemm.ee
    1·
    21 hours ago

    Up until recently, Labs did not force anyone to submit data to use it.

    With your logic, Firefox can also force people to submit data if they use the browser.

    • Victor@lemmy.world
      2·
      17 hours ago

      Up until recently, Labs did not force anyone to submit data to use it.

      Alright, well, it makes sense that they would finally require it, otherwise there’s probably not enough data. Data driven design choices can often be beneficial.

      With your logic, Firefox can also force people to submit data if they use the browser.

      That doesn’t seem familiar to my logic — no. There’s a difference between opting into using beta features and using the finished, ready, and released feature in the final product. Those are fundamentally different, philosophically, to me. One is expected not to have telemetry, and one makes sense that you would help out and provide non-identifiable usage data to help make the product better.

      🤷‍♂️ Right? That’s my take anyway.

      • LWD@lemm.ee
        1·
        15 hours ago

        So your logic would say Mozilla should require all Firefox Beta users to submit to mandatory data collection?

        The only consistent through line I see with your reasoning is adherence to what Mozilla preaches from on high. And that concerns me, because Mozilla’s ethics have continued tumbling downwards since they started collecting data at all in 2017.

        • Victor@lemmy.world
          1·
          12 hours ago

          So your logic would say Mozilla should require all Firefox Beta users to submit to mandatory data collection?

          I’m not saying they should, I’m just saying it makes sense. It’s for a good cause, rather than selling it to advertisers e.g. And harmless data not meant to identify/fingerprint you, but to develop an understanding of their own product.

          • LWD@lemm.ee
            1·
            11 hours ago

            Selling your data also makes sense, especially for a company that is in dire straights. That’s what Google did. Since 2023, this is also a Mozilla practice.

            I’m just trying to figure out what your ethical bar for Mozilla is.

            • Victor@lemmy.world
              1·
              10 hours ago

              Since 2023, this is also a Mozilla practice.

              Curious to know more about that. Is that verifiable somewhere official, that they do this? Or has it been whistleblown somehow?

              If not, I still trust that they don’t sell any personally-identifiable information about me.

              I’m just trying to figure out what your ethical bar for Mozilla is.

              I’ll do my best to help, as I have been so far.