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liberalism without capitalism…
isn’t that basically just socialism?
plus, if liberals were to invent replicators, they would use it to lower cost of production, fire staff, and raise profits while skyrocketing inequality.
“Please insert Trumpbux to begin replication”
just thought that the concept of “replicator will end scarcity” is wrong.
we have done the same with music and digital media.
at the beginning you had to buy physical media. but then we developed a way to end scarcity and have unlimited music for free. and it was immediately turned into a crime.
i guarantee that if we invent replicators, they’ll we have DRM and licences and you’ll have to buy a license or a subscription service.
There’s a good short story by Cory Doctorow called Printcrime about how the liberal state would react to replicators.
“Printer is out of cyan matter”
if the printer can’t track you what’s the point in selling printers to the public…
printers hide a nearly invisible pattern in every print to act as a fingerprint to track people. so if you print something out can be tracked straight to you. so even if you print in black and white, the print needs the colours.
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yhea, was pointing at how ridiculous is that concept.
like they want the modern pretend leftists vibe of liberalism without liberalism, ie they want anything left of socialism.
Besides the obvious lack of understanding of political economy, there’s repetition of a widespread misunderstanding of Trek. The idea that the Federation’s socialism is only enabled by replicators. Replicators aren’t invented until sometime between the TOS movie era and TNG, so the early 24th century. Earth is clearly post-capitalist by the mid 22nd. Vulcan had been socialist since the Age of Awakening, around the 4th century.
It’s not just wrong, it’s exactly backwards. Replicators under capitalism wouldn’t technologically enable socialism, they would be controlled by capitalists.
The Federation’s replicators are enabled by socialism.
Roddenberry was a maoist with an obsession for women with more than 2 tits. Calm down guy
We want the social collective to support us to achieve our individual freedom…and then leave us alone
Someone else should work for me and I will not give anything in return… ME ME ME ME ME ME ME
Most liberals would at least shed a tear about the suffering of the disenfranchised, but Damien admits they have to suffer, so some can enjoy “individual freedom”, which just means not having to give a shit. I bet they blame “woke” for having gone too far.
Socialism is when Borg
Borg as in German?
There’s literally an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise where humans discover alien replicator technology for the very first time
Earth by that point is clearly post-capitalist with Captain Jonathan Archer either being the first or second generation to grow up in a utopian earth
There’s literally an episode of Star Trek: Enterprise where humans discover alien replicator technology for the very first time
Which is also the episode that they blow up the alien space dock station because it abducted a main cast member… Well it’s less offensive to your intelligence (or otherwise) than the actual red alert origin episode (why they say “go to tactical alert” rather than red or yellow alert…), seriously why did we need an episode’s B plot (that later invades the A plot) dedicated to the phrase “go to red alert”?
Almost like a technological advance like matter replication can only be developed by a post-capitalist society, or it would just be immediately restricted to the elite of society and used to maintain capitalist relations
Why do we have a Ferengi Marx emoji when it could just be Rom?
And then it’s literally centuries more before humans are actually using replicators. Archer’s ship has a cook, Kirk’s has protein resequencers that make brightly colored edible cubes of something.
“liberalism (…) minus the stuff you don’t like. AKA capitalism”
So… Not literally just not liberalism, then? The brainworms it takes to just post whatever on a subject you clearly have taken no effort whatsoever to understand.
The challenge level for liberals to understand Liberalism is so high
Collectivist
Immediately not taking what this person has to say seriously.
What a mess
Let him have some
I’m beginning to think this Damien Walter person is a fucking dipshit.
I’ve seen some videos from him about Andor posted to Hexbear lately that struck me as more longwinded than actually objectionable, but this is an impressive level of not understanding liberalism, socialism, or Star Trek.
I just don’t think society being beholden to the belief in the magic money line means that my individual freedoms are less subsumed than if we simply got rid of the people to whom we are beholden.
This is where I feel like so many people are genuinely not curious at all. I think socialism has more to say about ones individual autonomy than capitalism. Even by practical example you can talk about China and their capacity to choose between home ownership or renting. How about your ability to travel? Take risks without ending up in a billion dollars of medical debt? Entrepreneurship? They disrupted an industry and made a better LLM! Even fundamentally, your freedom to play a battle royale in a shrinking zone of habitability on a boiling planet seems less free than if you had a mandated bedtime and got kicked out of a restaurant for saying the N word.
Stalin quote about how individuals thrive in supportive communities
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