Originally Posted By u/Kitedo At 2025-06-14 04:50:59 PM | Source


  • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
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    So now they’re being very open about it, Good. Document this so that they can’t get away with it

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    We cannot let the Republican party stand after the dusts settles. It is tainted, planted over the bones of white supremacy and watered with hate.

    Force them to set down new grassroots by banning every Republican politician from office that manages to escape prison.

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      today on sesame street: gang wars edition, we’re going to learn about power vacuums!

      if you have a large population that supports a particular group or person and get rid of that group or person, a vacuum will form that sucks all that support with new hostility into a new group or person, usually they are worse than the original.

      the best way to combat this is to replace existing leadership with leaders who are sympathetic to your goals and will lead the vacant minded masses to the agreed upon goal.

      the US has done this hundreds of times in history with great success.

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        the best way to combat this is to replace existing leadership with leaders who are sympathetic to your goals and will lead the vacant minded masses to the agreed upon goal.

        That’s what neocons were until the Tea Party purged them.

        The problem is that the Democrat leadership wants the old GOP back so they can get back to ending history. We can’t tolerate either party in their present forms.

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        The power vacuum exists when the power is left sitting at the table. Presumably, in my utopic wish to disenfranchise fascists, we’d fix the guiderails that let us fly off into this canyon but I didn’t get into that in the midst of my angry diatribe.

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    That’s a literal death threat. Fuck that guy. Maybe he’d like to experience the same next time he votes against a Democrat? Or maybe, we just don’t do political assassinations.

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      Nah, this type of cretin deserves only what they salivate over dolling on others. He deserves it. Completely. Literal psychopath throwing threats.

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    I’m going to paste in part of my comment on another thread:

    Something important to know about the two people who were shot: until her death, Melissa Hortman was a member of the Minnesota State House of Representatives; and John Hoffman is a member of the Minnesota State Senate. Both were Democrats.

    And up until they were shot, the Minnesota House had 134 Members: 66 Republicans vs 67 Democrats (with one seat empty to be filled later). And the Minnesota Senate had 67 members: 33 Republicans and 34 Democrats. If the assassinations had both been successful, both chambers would have been tied. As it is, they’re only saying that Hoffman is “stable”, but there are no further details.

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      Luckily, in this case, nothing fascist is gonna get passed through the Governor’s veto. It’s just a momentary delay in passing laws until a replacement can be elected in the next special election.

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      Is it not in the US that the house is seen as full of seats and these are tied to a party? Surely it’s not that they’re tied to a person, lest a drunk driver could shift the entire political landscape. I imagine the party refills the seat.

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        To add to what the others said; it depends on the state but typically in this situation it would be up to the governor to appoint a replacement. Whether or not that person has to be from the same party, serves the rest of the term or is just temporary, or if there needs to be a special election will also vary by state as well.

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        I imagine the party refills the seat

        Political parties do not have direct granted power or authority in any state or federal position. They are not officially part of the election process. They organize and group candidates, and spend millions on advertising but they aren’t directly granted any power. States will run primary elections to assist parties in selecting a candidate to proceed to the general election, but the process the party uses is ultimately up to them for determining the name they want to submit for the general election. Neither of the current two major parties existed when the US was founded, and originally there were several others. The actual general election process doesn’t care about parties at all. Our system has inevitably devolved into the two party system we have now because of the Electoral College process.

        In most States, replacing a State legislator is done via a Special Election, and stays vacant until then. A quick Google search seems to show that is the case for Minnesota. So if that district doesn’t solidly vote D, it will be up for grabs. On this current political climate right now, I’m not sure that it would shift R.

        On the federal level the State Governor would appoint someone to the Congress/Senate until the next election. Depending on the State laws, because States control their own election process, they may not be required by law to appoint someone from the same party.

        In a deeply divided political climate like this, forcing both the legislature and Senate into a tie can effectively shutdown the government. Which is great for a party with a goal of trying to obstruct any progress.

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        Wait till you hear about the supreme court. They could just get one of their cultists to murder the 6 non-trump judges and fascists will control the entirety of the courts by appointing their replacements.

        Edit: Actually, the courts are already 5-4/4-5 split most of the time in recwnt years, just muder 1 liberal judge and democracy is effectively over.

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      And also tries to use an (AI-generated?) prompt answer in an attempt to call dissenting commenters an ablist slur and prove that he definitely didn’t make any threats of violence with his statement clearly implying that people who voted against his party of choice have their “li[ves] at stake”.

      https://xcancel.com/AlecLace/status/1933983687864913980#m

      Real fucking class act this fascist shitheel is.

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      So this is actually him implying that Tim Walz ordered the assassination because Melissa Hortman voted against healthcare for undocumented migrants. Not the threat that it sounds like without context, but orders of magnitude more stupid. These people live in an entirely different reality.

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        Yes he implies that with ambiguous language as a way of weaseling out of the legality of threatening violence.

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    The brownshirts are being activated. They’ll inspire more domestic terrorism, and they’ll stop facing any consequences. It’s a speedrun to fascism.

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      After today’s protests, they will be pressing the pedal harder. Do NOT give in! We fight back.

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            I am thinking of that, MLK was assassinated by the FBI who have been cracking down on any leftist movement ever since. Going as far as dropping bombs on cities to prevent progress. How does a peaceful march stand up against that?

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      As Dennis would say

      They are referencing two murders and two attempted already and stating there will be more, this is far beyond that line

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        A thing being illegal does not make it impossible.

        I could say an enemy of the state cannot be elected (14th amendment), but here we are.

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          The difference between all the illegal shit that the administration has been doing and this is that the president kind of feasibly had power to order immediate action, so people obeyed, BUT he was also supposed obey the judiciary when it said he couldn’t do that, and he didn’t do that. They move fast so that when people call them on it, it’s already done and they can say they can’t do anything about it. NOT doing something is a lot easier to get away with than doing it. Pardoning a state crime would be a case where the action would be 100% clear to be illegal from the get-go, so doing it fast and then pretending to be suddenly helpless wouldn’t work. He would actually need the entire system in that state to obey him over the law when they have no defense for doing so and no assurance that they’ll be pardoned or rewarded at all. It might happen, but it’s also not very feasible yet.

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        So what you’re saying is, MAGA and republicans are winning because they’re more peaceful? Or is the left losing because they’re more violent? Because it seems like they’re winning because they’re actually taking material action with violence while the left do nothing but symbolic peaceful action.

        The turnout was great and all but Trump is still in power, ICE is still abducting, and now politicians are getting murdered by gunmen who can conveniently slip away undetected from the middle of a gunfight. What does peaceful protest actually solve when the opposition is just straight up murdering?

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          I don’t understand what you’re trying to say with the first part about MAGA and flipping the roles.

          And I’m not saying it, it’s the academics in those links. If you have academics calling for violence all the way through to solve this, I’d love to hear it.

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    The feeling is becoming mutual. If the GOP keeps it up, reprisals will happen.

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      Because he is a fascist with an audience. Little Goebels.

      What needs to happen is some led flying over his head. Or bricks to his face. Windows. Molotov his house.

      He wants violence? Serve it to him.

      Cries wolf? Serve more violence.

      Serve violence until he stops.

      Why? Because this is what he salivates for for everyone else.

      As a fellow Yuropean from eastern block.

      DO NOT IGNORE MEDIA FASCITS