“Violence is a tool but so is moral persuasion, both have their place and both have their victories.”
Wow, what a shitlib I am for thinking that moral persuasion has ever had a role in society. A shitlib just like MLK Jr., Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela. Amazing how many shitlibs there are out here.
Moral persuading goes hand in hand with actual violence to show that you mean business. The moral persuasion just goes to get the common folk on your side so to try to prevent future issues. Look at Malcom x and MLK. MLK wouldn’t have got nearly as far without the threat of Malcom X causing actual immediate change. Like open carry laws.
Moral persuasion is a great tool, but alone, enacted zero real change.
Not going to lie, I have no sources to back this up, it’s just what I was taught in highschool.
That said, even with both violence and non- violent persuasion, racism still perpetuates within America.
“We’ve tried non-violently pressuring people into violence so that they can die for our beliefs and it hasn’t changed anything for the better in a century. Therefore, non-violence doesn’t work.”
Thanks for the offer, but I prefer to engage in actual leftist activities. And unlike tankies and accelerationists circlejerking over “theory” and only the minimum to explicitly make the lives of vulnerable people worse (because their religion says that this will magically ignite class consciousness), I prefer to engage with my community and volunteer to help those in need. Seems the lot conveniently forget the “act” part of “think globally, act locally”, and are just happy to pretend that you’re “fighting The Man” while doing fuck all to actually improve the human condition and push things to the Left.
“Non-violence doesn’t do anything” - well, put up and take action to prove it or shut the fuck up while the adults talk and try to avoid unnecessary deaths of working class people who tankies really don’t give a shit about.
The most intelligent liberal, folks.
“Violence is a tool but so is moral persuasion, both have their place and both have their victories.”
Wow, what a shitlib I am for thinking that moral persuasion has ever had a role in society. A shitlib just like MLK Jr., Gandhi, and Nelson Mandela. Amazing how many shitlibs there are out here.
Valid stuff. A top mind of Lemmy, even.
Moral persuading goes hand in hand with actual violence to show that you mean business. The moral persuasion just goes to get the common folk on your side so to try to prevent future issues. Look at Malcom x and MLK. MLK wouldn’t have got nearly as far without the threat of Malcom X causing actual immediate change. Like open carry laws.
Moral persuasion is a great tool, but alone, enacted zero real change.
Not going to lie, I have no sources to back this up, it’s just what I was taught in highschool.
That said, even with both violence and non- violent persuasion, racism still perpetuates within America.
“We’ve tried non-violently pressuring people into violence so that they can die for our beliefs and it hasn’t changed anything for the better in a century. Therefore, non-violence doesn’t work.”
Is, I think, what this boils down to.
Noone is stopping you from continuing to do nothing.
Thanks for the offer, but I prefer to engage in actual leftist activities. And unlike tankies and accelerationists circlejerking over “theory” and only the minimum to explicitly make the lives of vulnerable people worse (because their religion says that this will magically ignite class consciousness), I prefer to engage with my community and volunteer to help those in need. Seems the lot conveniently forget the “act” part of “think globally, act locally”, and are just happy to pretend that you’re “fighting The Man” while doing fuck all to actually improve the human condition and push things to the Left.
“Non-violence doesn’t do anything” - well, put up and take action to prove it or shut the fuck up while the adults talk and try to avoid unnecessary deaths of working class people who tankies really don’t give a shit about.
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