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    That’s because due to human nature, basic greed, and cruelty Marx’s idea of governance is quite impossible.

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      Which idea of governance? Socialist workers’ democracy, or the end-state of communism?

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        The end state of communism. It’s a nice idea don’t get me wrong, it’s just ignorant.

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          I would strongly disagree that it’s impossible. There’s significant evidence of societies operating at or near a position that can reasonably be described as communism.

          My point of contention would be whether communism is more desirable than socialist workers’ democracy, the supposed intermediate stage, rather than whether it is possible.

          The desire for a stateless, moneyless society correctly identifies many of the problems of states and money, but often glosses over what problems states and money themselves address.

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            The desire for a stateless, moneyless society correctly identifies many of the problems of states and money, but often glosses over what problems states and money themselves address.

            This is more so what I mean, and I agree with you completely on this statement.

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      If that’s true we need to all commit suicide and let th next species take over.

      Thankfully human nature is cooperation and compassion, you know the things we explicitly evolved.

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        If that were the sole case the Geneva convention wouldn’t exist. We are capable of compassion and cooperation yes; but unfortunately that tends to be overshadowed by hate greed and other horrible evolutions.

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          Fortunately you’re still wrong. Every evolutionary biologist and behavioral evolutionary biologist accepted today agrees, humanity evolved through compassion and cooperation. Not competition. Not greed. Not war. Those are things that are subversive to human nature, not a part of it.

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            Every evolutionary biologist and behavioral evolutionary biologist accepted today agrees, humanity evolved through compassion and cooperation. Not competition. Not greed. Not war. Those are things that are subversive to human nature, not a part of it.

            Jesus Christ.