• Cocopanda@lemmy.world
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    It has always been this way. If you were a Hunter S. Thompson reader. You knew this way back. If you read about the real American history. You would know that the military was and has been used against Americans by terrible leaders. Just look at the Veteran Camps during the great depression. Requesting their war payments. Patton was sent in to clear them out. America has always been like this. It’s never been a good place for most people. Where I grew up. The sheriffs office committed a mass murder against striking coal miners in the 1800’s. This country is not a good place. Never has been.

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      No it hasn’t “always been this way”. Abuses like this are unusual and indicate the sorry state of the current regime. Dismissing it as normal is sloppy and irresponsible.

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        Did you not read my whole comment? Union busting has been a thing carried out by police and sheriffs all over this country. We have never had a good nation. Not until the New Deal was created. And now all of that is being wiped away.

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          I did read your whole comment. You stated that the country has “always been this way”, illustrated with one example, and claimed that this sums up our whole history. It doesn’t. But in our new meme-fueled standard of social discourse the world consists only of all-or-nothing Good vs Evil false dichotomies, so what’s the use.

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            Jim fucking Crow

            Joe McCarthy

            Japanese concentration camps in the USA

            Kkk

            Confederate plantation slave owners

            George Custer’s slaughter of the Cheyenne

            Andrew Jackson’s Indian removal act, and the trail of tears

            Various race riots and massacres such as the many different Harlem massacres, new Orleans massacre, Tulsa massacre, first pillow massacre

            And of course where it all started, The literal beginning of what would become the United States of America

            Christopher god damned Columbus

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        I don’t know if it’s sloppy and irresponsible, sounds like a beaten down exhausted citizen.

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          Sounds perfectly reasonable, but being beaten down and exhausted doesn’t add merit to a lazy, superficial analysis of history. “We’ve always been a horrible country” is as stupid as “We’re the world’s shining light of justice and freedom.”

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            I didn’t say either, I’m just disagreeing with your opinion. You can say ‘fair enough’ and move on with your life.