As much as I’d like to make this a sticking point about his failure to plan, this always happens at the start of a CONUS mobilization; see the J6 response as an example. Even with natural disasters Soldiers are sleeping out of their office buildings until it becomes long term and they’re rehoused. I wouldn’t exactly say it’s ‘piss poor planning’, just that Soldiers are capable and can sleep on the floor for a few days, as a small cost to ensure that you get a rapid response.
Do you want to wait for hurricane relief until after the Ramada has vacancies? When they’re packed, too? Or for unrest support?
Those aren’t really comparable situations though are they?
Scenario 1: a hurricane has wiped out a major city. As soon as the storm passes, US soldiers are sent in to protect property, distribute aid, and help with rescue and recovery. People want them there, and quickly, and so dealing with poor accommodations for a little while is acceptable to get faster response.
Scenario 2: Peaceful protesters are exercising their constitutional rights in a major city. The Governor and mayor of the the city say everything is under control. They have police on site already, a highly militarized police force that has specifically and repeatedly trained for riot control and oppression keeping the peace during protests. Against the wishes of the local government and the people of the city, the military is rushed into place for optics and intimidation.
You see, in that second scenario, the military’s presence is actually harmful and unwanted, so its good to point out how badly planned and rushed the deployelment is, because it was unnecessary and time wasn’t a critical factor.
Things can be good or bad at different times, depending on the situation and handling.
They are exactly comparable situations; these are emergency responses for National Guard Soldiers, and are treated the same. You need a massive push immediately. Regardless of whether it’s a protest or a hurricane, you the citizen want a response fast. In this case SOME citizens and leadership still want a response, whether or not you do. And in their case, yes… it’s an equal emergency in their eye, even if that’s all propaganda or bad faith from your or our POV.
I am not arguing whether they should or shouldn’t be there because XYZ different tier of leadership wants A, B, or C to happen. I am strictly stating that logistically, this is normal. It was normal for J6, it’s normal for any other operation like this. This would be abnormal if it were a long standing mission, like the border security missions.
As much as I’d like to make this a sticking point about his failure to plan, this always happens at the start of a CONUS mobilization; see the J6 response as an example. Even with natural disasters Soldiers are sleeping out of their office buildings until it becomes long term and they’re rehoused. I wouldn’t exactly say it’s ‘piss poor planning’, just that Soldiers are capable and can sleep on the floor for a few days, as a small cost to ensure that you get a rapid response.
Do you want to wait for hurricane relief until after the Ramada has vacancies? When they’re packed, too? Or for unrest support?
Those aren’t really comparable situations though are they?
Scenario 1: a hurricane has wiped out a major city. As soon as the storm passes, US soldiers are sent in to protect property, distribute aid, and help with rescue and recovery. People want them there, and quickly, and so dealing with poor accommodations for a little while is acceptable to get faster response.
Scenario 2: Peaceful protesters are exercising their constitutional rights in a major city. The Governor and mayor of the the city say everything is under control. They have police on site already, a highly militarized police force that has specifically and repeatedly trained for
riot control and oppressionkeeping the peace during protests. Against the wishes of the local government and the people of the city, the military is rushed into place for optics and intimidation.You see, in that second scenario, the military’s presence is actually harmful and unwanted, so its good to point out how badly planned and rushed the deployelment is, because it was unnecessary and time wasn’t a critical factor.
Things can be good or bad at different times, depending on the situation and handling.
They are exactly comparable situations; these are emergency responses for National Guard Soldiers, and are treated the same. You need a massive push immediately. Regardless of whether it’s a protest or a hurricane, you the citizen want a response fast. In this case SOME citizens and leadership still want a response, whether or not you do. And in their case, yes… it’s an equal emergency in their eye, even if that’s all propaganda or bad faith from your or our POV.
I am not arguing whether they should or shouldn’t be there because XYZ different tier of leadership wants A, B, or C to happen. I am strictly stating that logistically, this is normal. It was normal for J6, it’s normal for any other operation like this. This would be abnormal if it were a long standing mission, like the border security missions.