• QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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    Sone of us are older and take issue with how much attention she is drawing while not really organizing anything. She’s a useful figurehead but there are people making her out to be akin to the American civil rights leaders of the past and she’s not doing what they did in terms of grassroots organization. She’s more Oprah, without the baggage she brings, than MLK.

    She’s neither the second coming of Christ nor is she a huckster. I think she’s a sometimes media darling who does work herself but does not seem to be building a movement but rather shows up to be the face of it.

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        More like she feels like Occupy Wall Street all over again where the work being done is ineffective, it feels like it is all for social media, and “progressives” will bully you if you actually ask what was achieved.

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      Sone of us are older and take issue with how much attention she is drawing while not really organizing anything.

      Some of you have issues with her message, but have to pretend to dislike the delivery.

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      Sone of us are older and take issue with how much attention she is drawing while not really organizing anything.

      Considerable funds have been spent to make you reach that conclusion, and think it’s accurate.

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        Not really, if you take some time you’ll see she herself isn’t going around and doing grunt work. A lot of money is also spent making you think she’s effective at what sheis doing.

        Im not saying she is doing nothing but there is a difference between what she is doing and what people who started up grassroots organizations did. If ypu look into her foundation they finance other groups and it is those people who are organizing.

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          Not really, if you take some time you’ll see she herself isn’t going around and doing grunt work. A lot of money is also spent making you think she’s effective at what sheis doing.

          You’ve been trained to be reflexively dismissive of what she does. This is to direct your thinking away from the specific cause at hand.

          You can verify this by the number of words you’ve typed in order to crap on Greta, compared to the number of words you’ve typed about the Crimes Against Humanity in Gaza being committed by Israel.

          You will behave identically the next time she speaks up on important issues.

          For you, it will always be about Greta, which will reduce your will to focus on the crisis at hand.

          You’ve been trained.

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              You need significant psychological help as you are delusional.

              Gaslighting is abuse.

              You do not know me nor have I taken a pro-Israel position.

              I bet you can’t admit that netanyahu is committing genocide.

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                No one is gaslighting anyone here. They are under the impression that they can read minds.

                Israel is absolutely committing genocide as they have been for years

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                  No one is gaslighting anyone here.

                  You literally said they needed professional help and that they were delusional.

                  Israel is absolutely committing genocide as they have been for years

                  I asked about netanyahu in particular.

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                    I explained why they are eelusional as they are professing that they believe they can read minds. That’s not gaslighting unless you somehow perceive there is a relationship with someone you don’t know. If they are doubting their sanity from a singular reply from an anonymous poster what would that suggest to you?

                    Netanyahu has been leading Israel for years and spent decades in the IDF. Do you need me to connect the dots for you?

                    Go look up what “gaslighting” means as you are using that term incorrectly.

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              You need significant psychological help as you are delusional. You do not know me nor have I taken a pro-Israel position.

              Settle down, Sparky.

              I’m pointing out the actual topic, which isn’t Greta, and the fact that your sole axe to grind here is “Greta sux”, as you’ve been trained.

              Given that the IDF has killed aid workers, journalists, medical personnel, children, anyone they feel like, The entire crew of that ship was literally risking death, in order to break Israel’s blockade of food and aid to Palestinians.

              Your singular takeaway? Greta don’t impress me much.

              You’re profoundly unhelpful in the upward march of humanity.

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                Someone commented how everyone who isn’t celebrating her is a bot and I explained a different take on that.

                You then proceeded to pretend you know what I think and why and that is delusional as you do not know me at all.

                You then proceed to suggest that I am brainwashed and a bad person because I don’t share your exact views which seems intensely hypocritical.

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                  Someone commented how everyone who isn’t celebrating her is a bot and I explained a different take on that.You then proceeded to pretend you know what I think and why which is delusional as you do not know me at all.

                  This is an utterly false depiction of what happened, Mr. Eight Day Old Account. In my first comment to you, I quoted you directly, so that you could see exactly what I was calling you out for.

                  You then proceed to suggest that I am brainwashed and a bad person because I don’t share your exact views which seems intensely hypocritical.

                  Im not suggesting that you are brainwashed. I am telling you that you’re brainwashed, and exactly what you’ve been trained to think and do.

                  You then you continued to behave exactly as I described.

                  The only thing that seems to be important to you, is to drive home the idea that “Greta ain’t all that”. As though you’re following marching orders or talking points, Mr. Eight Day Old Account.

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              You never condamned a single israeli crime all you do it to talk about a person you hate for weird reasons. You can go to an unpopularopinion community and trash her as much as you want

              this post has no greta in it, can you go the post and say something nice? https://lemmings.world/post/28110379

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      Not organizing anything? She was just kidnapped for being part of organizing an aide flotilla to a war zone. The fuck are you even talking about?

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      Huh? She’s done nothing but organize grassroot movements and civil disobedience since she was 15? MLK was 28 when he helped form the SCLC, Greta is 22 - give her some credit.

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        She has shown up. She hasn’t organized. Other people are doing that. Her foundation writes cheques.

        I am giving her credit for what she is actually doing

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          I’m certainly no expert on what she’s been doing, but how can you possibly make that assertion with that kind of conviction? How could you possibly know what she does vs what the people surrounding her are doing?

          More importantly, do you actually think past revolutionary figures were doing everything themselves? If she’s getting the people surrounding her to organize, then she is organizing them. That’s leadership. Plenty of historical figures of note are the figureheads because they were the ones writing the checks, that’s how things get done.

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        She’s a media figure that gets credit for a lot of things others were doing but she is the face for.

        She’s doing work but she isn’t organizing.

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          She’s doing the work but not in a way you like? What work are you doing to improve your community?

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            She’s being celebrated for being a significant activist IRL who isn’t effective at all. It’s Occupy Wall Street all over again where people get really mad when you actually start asking what the results of that action was.