• Dagwood222@lemm.ee
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    5 days ago

    The funniest thing is that if you debate a 2A person they will swear that they personally keep up with their training and keep all weapons fully secured. Then they will explain how forcing anyone else to take these common sense precautions is a horrible idea.

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      4 days ago

      Arguing with a 2A person is kinda like arguing with a obese person. They always eat healthy and move a lot and have no idea where these calories may come from.

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      5 days ago

      It depends. I heard someone talking about how they have one on the coffee table, nightstand, and like 2 other places in the open.

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        5 days ago

        Not to play devils advocate, but I think what qualifies safe storage is super situational. What you describe could be totally fine in a house without children or a person with a disability.

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      5 days ago

      Then they will explain how forcing anyone else to take these common sense precautions is a horrible idea.

      Using Government Power to force people to do things often has unexpected consequences. Since Black Teens are the single largest group effected by Firearm Homicides, pages 5 and 8, and are almost certainly included in this study as children, that means The Police are going to have to go into Black homes to “force” these common sense precautions.

      Uhhhh…I see some problems here.

      It’s too easy, especially online, to have an image of “2A people” as older white males but the reality is pretty different. Yes 36% of Whites reporting owning a firearm but so do 24% of Blacks and 15% of Latinos.

      That is literally 10s of millions of non-white gun owners and as you can see on page 10 in the Johns Hopkins study data the problem of gun violence is massively skewed towards non-whites.

      Yes every gun owner needs to take appropriate measures to secure their firearms but how in the hell do you “force” that without ending up in very problematic situations?

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          5 days ago

          Yep, but I did it with that official statics and impeccable logic not hand-waving vagueness.

          I also noticed that you didn’t answer my question.

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            5 days ago

            That’s how you proved my point.

            Millions and millions of ‘responsible gun owners’ donating to hundreds of politicians, and yet they can’t come up with anything like a plan to stop even one kid from getting shot.