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Join the IWW to unionize your workplace for a general strike, and bring their machinery to a halt!
Spread the word, share it around, show your friends and family how to unionize!
Yeah I’m not reading all that. Sorry mate. You’re going way off topic from the initial reason I recommended the book in the first place. It covers the history of resistance to Nazis by leftist groups in Germany. But you seem to want to ignore that for some leftist (anarchist) purity. Like somehow you can’t learn history because it’s written by a ML. Weird take and weird rant.
tl;dr, you said I lacked an understanding of history, and didn’t understand what I meant by authoritarian. I elaborated. I don’t trust Marxist-Leninism due to numerous historical examples of their failings to cooperate with other anti-capitalists (I.E, killing them), and consistant human rights abuses.
Yeah. So you’re irrational. You’re not going to read a historical account by a ML because they’re an ML. That would be like me not reading Chomsky’s manufacturing concent because he’s an anarchist. It’s dumb. You’re being dumb and close minded and missing out on one of the best historical accounts of the thing you asked about.
Your loss. But don’t act like you’re being rational here. No wonder you fail so hard understanding historical materialism. You flat out refuse to read it for some liberal moral grandstanding masked as being an anarchist.
If I suggested to you that a died in the wool capitalist and white supremacist wrote the best treatise on a particular historical event, I think you would be highly rational to be extremely skeptical of that claim, and not give it much time, if any (I certainly wouldn’t), due to how likely it is that the material is extremely biased and likely to misrepresent reality, rendering its use as a lens of historical analysis useless.
I see Marxist-Leninists as similarly biased, and in some ways cult-like, as it requires an inordinate amount of cognitive dissonance to give an earnest look at it today and truly believe it to be the best path forward (In my opinion, anyway, and that ultimately matters very little). I would say the same to someone trying to convert me to become religious, and they too would likely say my dislike and lack of willingness to read their scripture is irrational.
Obviously to someone in that world, I’m speaking heresy, but it does exemplify that we’re both quite opinionated on the other’s views in the same way two offshoot religions are, and like those religions, there is little chance of converting one to the other when they are both set in what they think of each other, though I do still hope that you see ML for what it truly is someday.
No. We are not both that way. I read plenty by anarchist and demsocs and even MLs I disagree with. Because I understand that we all share fundamentals that are good and can be learned from each other. Especially when it comes to defending successful revolutions and defending the working class.
You, on the contrary are (by your own admission) treating this like some religion or some team sport. To the extent that you thought an analogy of leftist to white supremacist actually made sense in your head. Wow. Absolutely zero material analysis.
To be clear, it’s ok to make extreme analogies. That’s not the issue. It’s that your analogy is entirely based on “bad group I disagree with” and literally nothing more.
You basically sound like a liberal that calls themselves an anarchist. It’s pretty embarrassing.
God, I wish anarchist actually had a successful revolution to point to so us MLs could pick apart every little failure of its post revolution society too. But, alas, they have never lasted long enough to actually be able to defend themselves. So you get to sit on your hill of “purity” while MLs actually get shit done.
I actually mentioned in my long comment you didn’t want to read there were no successful Anarchist revolutions due to ML’s betraying them each and every time to quash any chance of them succeeding.
Just more ahistorical garbage from someone that admittedly doesn’t read anything that might not agree with their existing beliefs. You’re embarrassing yourself with every reply mate. Now I’m just entertained.
“Each and every time”. Cope more mate. You just generalized so much history into a single sentence it’s embarrassing.
Yeah it’s just the damn MLs getting in the way. You really are just a lib. Or I’m being very generous you fall for liberal talking points.
No respectable anarchist outside of the western world would ever agree with you. You’re just repeating garbage liberal filled anarchist without any real ideas.
As I mentioned before, I did read them, and I concluded that further research into ML will not be fruitful.
I only generalize due to longer comments being undesirable (more detail in the long previous comment, if you like).
Either way, further discussion will only result in needless conflict. I genuinely wish you the best. Farewell.