Novel inbound, I’ve been working to understand this phenomenon while recovering from an injury. Not sleeping, haven’t been able to be physically active, mentally screwy from it.
Yeah, it’s unfortunate. I’m still trying to understand some of the far left fanaticism I’m seeing on Lemmy. I think a lot of it is sheltered kids who don’t have much exposure to real life. (Kids being under 30).
Let me preface this by saying that I’m an egalitarian when it comes to feminism. (I can’t be bothered to try and figure which redefinition of feminism/egalitarianism I am, I know egalitarian can be a weasel word for misogyny). Like, a crack team of militant feminists take over the government and install a council of wise black granny ladies, I’m totally down, we would be much better off.
Anyhow, OP is so stereotypically misandrist that they hurt the cause they claim to be an expert on. All those old shitty boomer bra burning jokes.
OP may also have experienced trauma, bless their heart, and be in a bad place. It can’t feel good to be that twisted up.
Haven’t looked through their post history, but, the willful obtuseness and preachy fervor is right out of the Tankie style guide. No clue if OP is a Tankie, but, the behaviour is spot on. It’s also very similar to MAGAts and Qs, though those don’t require doctrinal adherence like the Tankies do. Fundamental Evangelical Christians and Fundamental Muslims are like this as well.
So, I think I’m coming to the conclusion that a lot of this is brainwashed kids. Some are sheltered western kids, some are eastern and have not been exposed, much, to western leftist culture.
They are all profoundly resistant to logic, adherence to doctrine is emotion based.
It’s pretty fucking weird. My online discussion experience is BBSs - Slashdot - Reddit - Lemmy. I haven’t seen this on the left before other than occasional isolated individuals.
Dark days ahead. I’m making it a point to check the source of anything inflammatory, right or left. Especially if it makes me angry or upset. So much of it is bullshit and the real scary stuff is dry executive orders.
Not only do I agree with what you’re saying, I as well have too much free time from becoming maimed… my fulltime job is basically doing PT at home right now.
But uh yeah, yep, there are a good number of just blindly ideological ‘tankie-likes’ on the left as well.
I’ve seen it online for longer than you have and yeah… there are tons and tons of youtube compilation videos of Zoomers and younger women just having entirely lost the feminist plot and become misandrists, and then that gets piped into younger men, who think that feminism just is misandry, and thus hate it, and then compilations of men saying that get piped into young women’s feeds…
A mutually reinforcing extremism loop with no discernable defusal mechanism, where both sides scream at the other one that they started it, and demand that its the other’s responsibility to stop it.
Basically uh, yep, we’re doomed untill everyone can kick their permaonline corporate social media addictions, but almost no one can.
Getting old fucking sucks and no one should ever do it. This morning, I was able to take a walk and check my groundhog traps today without hyperventilating and didn’t have to lay down after. (Pest control, I hate doing it but they dug under foundations in the barn and garage.)
Yippie kai aye, rereading Accelerando. Surprisingly, still pretty accurate. It gives me a little hope. More genocide in this world, however.
I tried very hard to pull friends and family out of the Q/MAGAt hole and failed completely. I have no good ideas on how to defuse either.
I’ve been having a gut feeling, over the last few days, that chump is going to pull some shit soon that is too outrageous for even the rest of the fascists or the corpos running them. Shutting down Voice of America, the tariffs, scaring immigrants away from all the farms and factories. He’ll be removed by the cabinet and Vance will back off the outrage and concentrate on financial pillaging and consolidating power. We’d still be pretty fucked, but hopefully we’d slide into a balkanization with only limited violence.
I ended up homeless for 2 years because my delusional QAnon family decided that actually I was the insane one, and tried to commit me to an institution.
Seeing as almost everyone I used to know either couldn’t be bothered to help, or were Maggats themselves…
As soon as I can get back to a reasonable level of mobility and dexterity, I would very much like to get out of this collapsing hellhole of a country…
… but, I likely still have 3 to 6 months left to go on the recovery, its possible things could change for the slightly better, or its also possible some kind of catch 22 or catastrophic event could functionally doom me.
… So I just focus on PT, and occasionally arguing on the net.
I’ve been fortunate enough to not be homeless except for 6mo of couch surfing when I was 18 and that was mostly just an adventure. I have gone no contact with my entire family and the majority of friends.
I understand a chunk of your pain but not all of it. That’s a raw fucking deal you got.
We looked at Canada real hard in 2020, ran the numbers and couldn’t do it. Much easier for a single person. High earning couple can do it easy, as well. Back then we made the decision to get out of a red state, saved and planned and moved last summer. Best we could do. Good luck! If you’re not bringing a family, I bet you can do it.
I’ve been in critical condition a couple of times with lengthy hospital stays and long recuperation. You probably won’t ever be as good as you were but you’ll be surprised at how much you can get back if you work on it.
I reckon my dies are cast on this whole thing, just going to ride it out.
I appreciate your empathy, and well, basically, likewise I think I understand some of what you’re going through… before all the insane QAnon bullshit took off, I was actually close with much of my family, and … I wished I could take the pain out my older relatives with severe arthritis…watched an aunt lose to cancer… and before that a… uncle-in-law? Whatever the word is for the father of my cousins, who I’m not related to.
But uh yeah.
So far my ‘split the difference’ plan is to get to Minnesota.
Minnesota is …actually livably affordable on just SSDI, is reasonably blue, borders Canada in case I really need to GTFO… and, long term, if I can stay… well, MN actually is projected to … basically suffer comparatively significantly less from climate change intensified disasters, so long as you are a decent distance from the Mississippi River.
… Or, all of Social Security gets cancelled and then something like 80 million poor, elderly, and disabled just become homeless and die within a few years, me included.
Oh well. I’ve now seen violent death up close and personal enough times that I have PTSD, at least it’ll be familiar.
I finally got some sleep, appetite has begun returning. It is possible to live well with pain, but it’s really fucking hard. It takes a lot of discipline because I have to keep moving and it’s hard to maintain that. I’m going to clean the living room and check traps today and then take it easy.
Your plan and reasoning are very similar to my own. I chose northeast as I’m hoping on the temperature and weather moderating effects of oceans and lakes 200-400mi away.
I’m hoping blue states pick up slack on SS and Medicare othetwise you’re right, it will be a death sentence for many.
I have found Tetris helps me some when I’m processing the bad shit. It really does help me, less nightmares. Really bad nights, I set the controller down and cry, and then pick it back up. It doesn’t work for everyone, it may even be a placebo, but I’ll take it.
My… mom came down with an incredibly debilitating form of neuropathy when I was just about to go from elementary to middle school.
I… know what its like to care for someone in a whole lot of pain, that doesn’t even make sense to your doctors and 95% of people around you.
But uh yeah, anyway, a placebo that helps is a coping mechanism, not a placebo.
Might I suggest upgrading to a turn based strategy game like Civilization or Humankind?
Slower paced, but much more cognitively complex and engaging… you can actually get lost in the sort of emergent narratives.
Less rapid, twitchy tapping/clicking than tetris, might be something you could play longer before your hands make you wanna scream.
Granted, requires a bit more powerful and expensive of a machine to run than tetris… but if you already have a laptop, you might be able to run newer ones with graphics turned down.
Lots of other turn based strategy games also exist with all kinds of different settings and themes, many with less high powered graphics requirements… Xenonauts (2 is in early access or beta right now), if you want to lead a fireteam to stop alien invasions, for example.
My girl is a saint and takes amazing care of me when I can’t. I know how lucky I am to have her. I’ve never had to be the carer other than when an ex recovered from a crash, but that was all bruising and whiplash.
The Tetris thing is actually pretty specific, it doesn’t work for everyone. It helps with intrusive images and thoughts for me. https://theconversation.com/can-playing-tetris-help-prevent-ptsd-if-youve-witnessed-something-traumatic-226736 I’m decent at Tetris, saved up and bought the OG Gameboy back in the day. I get into the zone when I’m feeling bad and I can feel it push out some the bad stuff. It’s something to do with the forced geometric thinking.
I never really got into strategy games except for Sim City. Adventure point and click, RPG (especially SF and Fallout 1-3), fps (Doom and Duke). These days, I find games that my girl enjoys watching such as Zelda. She does her yarning and I’ll play Zelda. Just finished Tears of the Kingdom, was thinking about replaying MYST or something next.
Novel inbound, I’ve been working to understand this phenomenon while recovering from an injury. Not sleeping, haven’t been able to be physically active, mentally screwy from it.
Yeah, it’s unfortunate. I’m still trying to understand some of the far left fanaticism I’m seeing on Lemmy. I think a lot of it is sheltered kids who don’t have much exposure to real life. (Kids being under 30).
Let me preface this by saying that I’m an egalitarian when it comes to feminism. (I can’t be bothered to try and figure which redefinition of feminism/egalitarianism I am, I know egalitarian can be a weasel word for misogyny). Like, a crack team of militant feminists take over the government and install a council of wise black granny ladies, I’m totally down, we would be much better off.
Anyhow, OP is so stereotypically misandrist that they hurt the cause they claim to be an expert on. All those old shitty boomer bra burning jokes.
OP may also have experienced trauma, bless their heart, and be in a bad place. It can’t feel good to be that twisted up.
Haven’t looked through their post history, but, the willful obtuseness and preachy fervor is right out of the Tankie style guide. No clue if OP is a Tankie, but, the behaviour is spot on. It’s also very similar to MAGAts and Qs, though those don’t require doctrinal adherence like the Tankies do. Fundamental Evangelical Christians and Fundamental Muslims are like this as well.
So, I think I’m coming to the conclusion that a lot of this is brainwashed kids. Some are sheltered western kids, some are eastern and have not been exposed, much, to western leftist culture.
They are all profoundly resistant to logic, adherence to doctrine is emotion based.
It’s pretty fucking weird. My online discussion experience is BBSs - Slashdot - Reddit - Lemmy. I haven’t seen this on the left before other than occasional isolated individuals.
Dark days ahead. I’m making it a point to check the source of anything inflammatory, right or left. Especially if it makes me angry or upset. So much of it is bullshit and the real scary stuff is dry executive orders.
Not only do I agree with what you’re saying, I as well have too much free time from becoming maimed… my fulltime job is basically doing PT at home right now.
But uh yeah, yep, there are a good number of just blindly ideological ‘tankie-likes’ on the left as well.
I’ve seen it online for longer than you have and yeah… there are tons and tons of youtube compilation videos of Zoomers and younger women just having entirely lost the feminist plot and become misandrists, and then that gets piped into younger men, who think that feminism just is misandry, and thus hate it, and then compilations of men saying that get piped into young women’s feeds…
A mutually reinforcing extremism loop with no discernable defusal mechanism, where both sides scream at the other one that they started it, and demand that its the other’s responsibility to stop it.
Basically uh, yep, we’re doomed untill everyone can kick their permaonline corporate social media addictions, but almost no one can.
Welcome to technofeudalism, hypercapitalism.
Getting old fucking sucks and no one should ever do it. This morning, I was able to take a walk and check my groundhog traps today without hyperventilating and didn’t have to lay down after. (Pest control, I hate doing it but they dug under foundations in the barn and garage.)
Yippie kai aye, rereading Accelerando. Surprisingly, still pretty accurate. It gives me a little hope. More genocide in this world, however.
I tried very hard to pull friends and family out of the Q/MAGAt hole and failed completely. I have no good ideas on how to defuse either.
I’ve been having a gut feeling, over the last few days, that chump is going to pull some shit soon that is too outrageous for even the rest of the fascists or the corpos running them. Shutting down Voice of America, the tariffs, scaring immigrants away from all the farms and factories. He’ll be removed by the cabinet and Vance will back off the outrage and concentrate on financial pillaging and consolidating power. We’d still be pretty fucked, but hopefully we’d slide into a balkanization with only limited violence.
I still have some hope.
I am a bit younger… and my PT is going well.
I ended up homeless for 2 years because my delusional QAnon family decided that actually I was the insane one, and tried to commit me to an institution.
Seeing as almost everyone I used to know either couldn’t be bothered to help, or were Maggats themselves…
As soon as I can get back to a reasonable level of mobility and dexterity, I would very much like to get out of this collapsing hellhole of a country…
… but, I likely still have 3 to 6 months left to go on the recovery, its possible things could change for the slightly better, or its also possible some kind of catch 22 or catastrophic event could functionally doom me.
… So I just focus on PT, and occasionally arguing on the net.
I’ve been fortunate enough to not be homeless except for 6mo of couch surfing when I was 18 and that was mostly just an adventure. I have gone no contact with my entire family and the majority of friends.
I understand a chunk of your pain but not all of it. That’s a raw fucking deal you got.
We looked at Canada real hard in 2020, ran the numbers and couldn’t do it. Much easier for a single person. High earning couple can do it easy, as well. Back then we made the decision to get out of a red state, saved and planned and moved last summer. Best we could do. Good luck! If you’re not bringing a family, I bet you can do it.
I’ve been in critical condition a couple of times with lengthy hospital stays and long recuperation. You probably won’t ever be as good as you were but you’ll be surprised at how much you can get back if you work on it.
I reckon my dies are cast on this whole thing, just going to ride it out.
I appreciate your empathy, and well, basically, likewise I think I understand some of what you’re going through… before all the insane QAnon bullshit took off, I was actually close with much of my family, and … I wished I could take the pain out my older relatives with severe arthritis…watched an aunt lose to cancer… and before that a… uncle-in-law? Whatever the word is for the father of my cousins, who I’m not related to.
But uh yeah.
So far my ‘split the difference’ plan is to get to Minnesota.
Minnesota is …actually livably affordable on just SSDI, is reasonably blue, borders Canada in case I really need to GTFO… and, long term, if I can stay… well, MN actually is projected to … basically suffer comparatively significantly less from climate change intensified disasters, so long as you are a decent distance from the Mississippi River.
… Or, all of Social Security gets cancelled and then something like 80 million poor, elderly, and disabled just become homeless and die within a few years, me included.
Oh well. I’ve now seen violent death up close and personal enough times that I have PTSD, at least it’ll be familiar.
I finally got some sleep, appetite has begun returning. It is possible to live well with pain, but it’s really fucking hard. It takes a lot of discipline because I have to keep moving and it’s hard to maintain that. I’m going to clean the living room and check traps today and then take it easy.
Your plan and reasoning are very similar to my own. I chose northeast as I’m hoping on the temperature and weather moderating effects of oceans and lakes 200-400mi away.
I’m hoping blue states pick up slack on SS and Medicare othetwise you’re right, it will be a death sentence for many.
I have found Tetris helps me some when I’m processing the bad shit. It really does help me, less nightmares. Really bad nights, I set the controller down and cry, and then pick it back up. It doesn’t work for everyone, it may even be a placebo, but I’ll take it.
My… mom came down with an incredibly debilitating form of neuropathy when I was just about to go from elementary to middle school.
I… know what its like to care for someone in a whole lot of pain, that doesn’t even make sense to your doctors and 95% of people around you.
But uh yeah, anyway, a placebo that helps is a coping mechanism, not a placebo.
Might I suggest upgrading to a turn based strategy game like Civilization or Humankind?
Slower paced, but much more cognitively complex and engaging… you can actually get lost in the sort of emergent narratives.
Less rapid, twitchy tapping/clicking than tetris, might be something you could play longer before your hands make you wanna scream.
Granted, requires a bit more powerful and expensive of a machine to run than tetris… but if you already have a laptop, you might be able to run newer ones with graphics turned down.
Lots of other turn based strategy games also exist with all kinds of different settings and themes, many with less high powered graphics requirements… Xenonauts (2 is in early access or beta right now), if you want to lead a fireteam to stop alien invasions, for example.
My girl is a saint and takes amazing care of me when I can’t. I know how lucky I am to have her. I’ve never had to be the carer other than when an ex recovered from a crash, but that was all bruising and whiplash.
The Tetris thing is actually pretty specific, it doesn’t work for everyone. It helps with intrusive images and thoughts for me. https://theconversation.com/can-playing-tetris-help-prevent-ptsd-if-youve-witnessed-something-traumatic-226736 I’m decent at Tetris, saved up and bought the OG Gameboy back in the day. I get into the zone when I’m feeling bad and I can feel it push out some the bad stuff. It’s something to do with the forced geometric thinking.
I never really got into strategy games except for Sim City. Adventure point and click, RPG (especially SF and Fallout 1-3), fps (Doom and Duke). These days, I find games that my girl enjoys watching such as Zelda. She does her yarning and I’ll play Zelda. Just finished Tears of the Kingdom, was thinking about replaying MYST or something next.
How are you feeling?