Image is Israeli interceptors trying and failing to intercept missiles over their cities.


Israel just carried out a widespread bombing of Iran, which has killed a number of senior officials inside Iran (though it seems the leadership is more-or-less intact) as well as a number of civilians. Important facilities have been targeted, but the amount of damage is unknown so far (note that many important Iranian facilities are deep underground, making them both hard to damage but also hard to determine if they are damaged from just satellite imagery, so reports of damage will be he-said-she-said).

It appears the attack took Iran by surprise, given that a residential block was targeted that contained some senior officials - if one saw an attack coming, one would imagine they’d be in bunkers. Nonetheless, like the rest of the Resistance Axis, I suspect that Iran has adapted their military structures to be resistant to decapitation strikes by ensuring that replacement figures are ready to take the place of killed officials.

Iran has delivered a massive missile barrage in response to Israeli aggression, even though Israel is continuing to bomb Iran. Iran is now aware of the location of many important Israeli sites, including secret nuclear sites, due to their recent intelligence haul, giving them a distinct edge.


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The bulletins site is here. Currently not used.
The RSS feed is here. Also currently not used.

Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel’s destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia’s youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don’t want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it’s just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists’ side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR’s former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR’s forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster’s telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a ‘propaganda tax’, if you don’t believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


  • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    Quick thoughts on the conflict so far:

    Iranian ballistic missiles and their response is about expected. The ballistic missiles with the range to hit Israel have a large variance in accuracy, and have to be launched in large numbers to saturate the Israeli/US Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD). Of these missiles with the range to hit Israel, those solid fueled ballistic missiles with advanced Maneuverable Re-entry Vehicles (Fattah 1/Kheibar Shekan series) are a minority of the arsenal, and those with dedicated electro optical terminal guidance (Qassem Basir), are an extreme minority. The majority of the arsenal is their liquid fueled Qadr/Emad/Shahab-3, and solid fueled Sejjil missiles, and Haj Qassem missiles with less sophisticated MaRVs. Because of the variance in accuracy and saturation required to defeat BMD, counterforce targeting (targeting military assets) is not possible. We saw this during Operation True Promise II. So Iran has made the expected move up the escalation ladder and switched to countervalue (civilian) targeting, bombing targets in Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc.

    Israeli military capabilities are about as expected, but the scale of the assault is unexpected. We knew that Iran’s air defence was comprised by previous Israeli attacks, and we knew that the integration of all the various systems into one network was not as good as previously thought. We knew that Israel could use Syria and Iraq as a staging ground for air attacks after the fall of Assad. We know that Israel has advanced aircraft and stand off and stand in munitions. However the scale of Israeli incursions into Iranian airspace, without direct US involvement, is surprising. Establishing air superiority 150-200km inside of Iran (with reference to the Iraq border) within 48 hours, and then attempting to open a permanent corridor to Tehran, with no known losses in aircraft so far, is unexpected.

    However, neither side is really winning on a strategic level. Without direct US involvement, it will be very difficult for Israel to establish air superiority over all of Iran and hit the second and third lines of missile bases that launch missiles at Israel. It will also be very difficult to damage underground nuclear facilities via conventional means. Both Israel and Iran know this. This is why Iran has not struck US military bases. This is why Israel is desperate to get the US involved. If Israel cannot hit the second and third line of missile bases, Iran can continue to launch missiles at Israel. If the US gets involved, this will change, and Iran’s safe zone of operations in Eastern Iran will be comprised.

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      The missile impacts at downtown Tel Aviv seem to have been mostly aimed at non military targets no? That is the AD battery and ministry of defense building. Some settler neighbourhoods got owned but thats probably less than a quarter of the hits let alone missiles used per target. Actually i was just seeing some osint geolocation efforts pointing out that at least one of the impacts was within the Kirya fenced compound even if it did not hit the building itself. So yeah despite Israeli placement of such target next in a civilian area and the relative innacuracy of their missiles (compared to chinese and russian ones, i doupt more than a couple of other countries can consistently do much better than 50m CEP for 2000km BM launches ) iran still did good wuth its targeting given the normal salvo size

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        Yeah but the problem is the CEP of the missiles meant that they didn’t directly hit the AD location or the Kirya building, missing by a couple hundred metres. Iran would’ve known this, which is why we saw almost none of these strikes during operation True Promise II. There was one strike aimed at Mossad headquarters, but that was it for OPT2. Yes a CEP of a couple hundred metres expected for MRBMs without a dedicated terminal guidance system (radar or electro optical), but Israel will frame it as bombing civilians when they respond, which is why Iran only carried out this bombing of Tel Aviv now, and not during Operation True Promise I and II, and why it’s a step up on the escalatory ladder.

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          Well unless Iran gets (and can afford) the latest electronic components and guidence systems intergration china and russia has at scale, They really cant hit any building sized target in israel without a bunch of luck. So unless you focus on some larger energy infrastructure, (air) ports or manage more than dozen missile impacts per target to get one f-35 hangar or high value target (not bad but they dont have the magazine depth to support that for weeks or months just with bms) then yeah, the strikes where made with that escelation calculus in mind.

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      Reports are also in that Iran is not yet launching cruise missiles. I would guess that it appears the strategy is to have missile defense systems make themselves known during ballistic bombardment saturation, and hopefully a few get through to take out defense systems. I would not be surprised if tonight Iran launched an even larger saturation barrage with some cruise missiles

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        As for me:

        Try become an aerospace/aeronautical engineer

        Fail.

        Some years later, get addicted to hexbear and try apply this to military analysis.

        As for how to learn about this stuff, I’d suggest following reliable accounts from various sources (anti west and pro west for instance). There are a lot of low follower accounts on social media that are prepared to share knowledge. Reading books is also helpful.

        On the issue of analysing ballistic missile performance, Decker Eveleth is probably one of the better accounts despite pro western bias. He was the guy that compiled and analysed the 30-40 hits on Nevatim Airbase from Iran’s Operation True Promise II. Despite his bias, he gets the facts right most of the time, and even though I’m on the opposite end of the ideological spectrum, our conclusions converge. For instance I did a post on here a few months ago talking about how Oreshnik was a weapon designed to hit NATO airbases, and Eveleth came to the same conclusion a few weeks later.

        For details on the Iranian ballistic missile programme, the Patarames account is a good follow, they are quite pro Iran so that’s worth keeping in mind. But they have lots of posts and videos detailing Iranian ballistic missiles, the various types, their use, etc. I did a post on here showing that Yemen got the Fattah 1 missile, and they also came to that conclusion. They’ve also been talking about the Mossad quadcopter threat for months.

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          Reading books is also helpful.

          yeah but again i would have no clue where to even begin. like imagine starting in on reading marxist theory without any sort of reading list, doing so is usually how people read capital or even the manifesto way too early and just stop reading theory because they dont understand it, i wish there was some sort of reading list out there particularly for military matters

          appreciate the links to those 2 accounts regardless