• Ellie@slrpnk.net
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    5 days ago

    So - yeah, let’s not press Elon too much.

    It seems like he literally enabled a fascist government and hurt tons of citizens with irresponsible firings. He can and still perhaps should be hated for that.

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      There are more people in the world enabling fascist governments than those who are not.

      Those systems he hurt are supposed to be able to survive this. If it’s not an improvement, then it’s a test.

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          The difference is that government agencies require regular shakeups. It’s normal. It’s not normal for them to just keep existing without those.

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        I don’t think you’d say the same about me taking a sledgehammer to your head. That’s what Elon did to a lot of agencies.

        Oh, and he’s not enabling a fascist government. He is the fascist government.

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              4 days ago

              Except killing an agency you might not kill a single person, while killing a person you kill a person.

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                Or you might kill hundreds or thousands, because the agency was crucial for ensuring safety standards. But Elon would never kill such an agency right?

                Anyways, you’re not getting the point. If I remove the most vital parts of an agency, it’s not an agency anymore. You can’t just go “uhhh, maybe it’s a bad agency if it doesn’t survive massive cuts”, just like you would not blame a human for not surviving severe damage.

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                  OK. It’s not what I meant, rather that all state institutions should be “nomad formations”, so to say - possible to kill and build again in a couple of weeks without touching the rest. But that’s probably off topic and I’m just too nervous a few last days.

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        What nonsense excuse is this? “There’s other bad people out there too, so don’t condemn this one?”

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            Okay, by bypassing regulations and illegally shutting down agencies instantly instead of sunsetting them to give time for nonprofits to fill the gap, Musk caused the death of tens of thousands of people who relied on food aid and lifesaving HIV meds. His degree of badness is worse than most people in the world.