• tetris11@feddit.uk
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    I guess it’s the same in England with the benefit that if you’re born here, you get a UK passport and all the rights that come with it. I’d argue that Germany played both sides of the “Europe means Europe” passport game to both include and exclude people from being naturalized citizens (i.e. yes you can live here, yes you can kinda vote here, no you’re not german)

    Plus the racism obviously, but every country has a large racist overbelly. England is easier in the sense that english media is everywhere, already diverse, and you can communicate in whatever pidgin english you know. German is much much harder, and I do blame the language being the main barrier to easier integration.

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      Yeah, having birthright citizenship makes a huge difference, imo. I’m from the US, which is obviously not currently immigrant friendly, but at least had the veneer of such when I was growing up (at least from my childhood perspective), and it’s hard to tell whether birthright citizenship or the idea of an “immigrant nation” played a bigger role in the difference between the two.

      Germany and England do have specific and individual cultures that are worth protecting, but cultural exchange doesn’t inherently destroy extant cultures and if you follow the roots of any tradition far back enough, you’ll find influences from outside cultures.

      I don’t know exactly how to describe it, but I got a feeling similar to what I imagine compersion to feel like (I’m not poly) when I saw a group of women wearing full hijabs integrated into their Karneval costumes bringing their costumed kids to a Faschingsparade. It was such a clear image of cultural blending that I got a little sappy about it.