finkelstein-lambaste Mr. Whatchamacallit

  • smokeppb [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    6 days ago

    Destiny isn’t owed attention, he has to first earn it. Since he didn’t earn it, he came into the debate as lil bro to Benny Morris, who was a historian and thus worthy of a debate with Norm.

    That and the “just Google it” response from Destiny cemented the L and made it evident that Destiny wasn’t to be taken seriously from then on. This happened only a couple minutes into the debate.

    He failed the vibe check from the start and spiraled from there, talking too fast to get his points across. He didn’t even have charisma since all attacks came off as awkwardness stemming from misreading the social situation.

    I don’t like debates normally for this reason, they become charisma contests and truth becomes a second class citizen. Luckily this debate was a massive failure for Destiny. Your posting is the first I’ve heard from him for a while.

    We did get funny soundbites from this, though. finkelstein-lambaste mistah bonerelli

    • Vincentmario@feddit.ukBanned from community
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      6 days ago

      Wasn’t Destiny worthy of the debate when Finkelstein accepted the debate? I really don’t understand. Why are we talking about worthiness.

      I’m not able to check the example you sent yet (Thank you, btw!!) but if you’ll allow me to extrapolate, I feel like “Just Google it” means “This statement I made is correct, and is easily provable with a quick search”. If he didn’t cite anything, that would be kind of weird I think. I think it would depend. If I forget to come back to this I’ll cry in real life

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        Why are we talking about worthiness.

        If I disagreed with the theory of relativity, I would first read Wikipedia to see if I had the right idea, sure. But if I wanted to come to rebuke the theory altogether and be convincing to intellectuals I would have to do a lot more work. Poke holes in the theory either through critiquing the method used to prove the theory in the first place or by running my own more convincing tests, and then get published somewhere credible. Not easy.

        Destiny didn’t do anything even close to this and instead attached his brand to Benny Morris, an actual historian like I said. But I’m not Norm,he had his reasons for accepting and everything worked out it seems.

        What Bonerelli was saying to google BTW, was an IDF shooting of 4 innocent children coming out of a fisherman’s shack in 2014. At the time IDF and apparently Destiny thought it was a Hamas base, it wasn’t.

        Basic Wikipedia tells me it wasn’t and only a self-investigation of the IDF absovled them in the end. From there the debate turned into shit show.