You are a hero
Also shouting out Krita as a Photoshop alternative for digital painting, digital art.
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People like him are why I still have hope in tech. May the machine bless him eternally.
So the website is super summy, finally found the “real” download button which took me to the MS app store. Ok fine, but now its been 10 minutes and it actually hasn’t started downloading yet…
Are you sure you are at https://inkscape.org/ ?
Last time I downloaded it ~1 year ago I don’t remember any hoops I had to jump through.
You don’t lose money when people use a competitors service/product over yours. That money wasn’t yours to lose.
Yet, the companies cry about losing money due to online piracy. At this point it’s eźtremally funny
for me, anyway, they didn’t lose money because if i couldn’t pirate it, I just wouldn’t watch. I’m told this is a common thought process
“If I couldn’t easily grab it off the table and walk away with it ,I wouldn’t have stolen it.”
Screw the media companies for the price gouging and being general dicks dragging people through the courts, but it’s still knowingly working around and accessing content that someone else paid to create. I dunno why people can’t be honest “I did it because it was easy and the chances of being caught were nominal. The risk / reward was in my favour”.
Your gonna get down votes and people crying about how words can mean anything, but entirely true. Risk/reward is 99% of it. Its also socially acceptable to talk about owning pirated media, which reduces the risk.
it’s not theft if you can’t legally own it. They willingly change the TOS to say that you’re basically renting it, and they can take it away for any reason, at any time. If they can take away something I paid money for, it’s not wrong to pirate it.
That’s a different argument though. If you have paid for a license to the content and they remove the distribution method or kill the drm that allows access to it. I’d say it’s fair game that you find an “alternative” copy of the content or work around to keep access to what you paid for. Unless you are knowingly buying it on a 1 off rental basis.
Don’t get me wrong, the current system is not weighted in the consumers favour at all and it’s a good reason to not play the game and avoid netflix, buy drm free computer games, etc but I just object to the argument the people who pirate are somehow noble robinhoods in a legally sound position. You’re still knowingly accessing something that someone paid to create and you’re gaining a benefit from that in entertainment. You’re just finding a way to justify doing so that sits right with your own moral code.
If everyone pirated, the entertainment industry would cease to exist or at least be greatly reduced the remaining people would only be doing it as a hobby. Big budget moves and TV series, AAA computer games would no longer find funding if no one at the consumer end is paying for it.
You’re still knowingly accessing something that someone paid to create and you’re gaining a benefit from that in entertainment.
And how do you feel about adblockers? By using one you’re depriving sites of the ad revenue they’d gain off of you reading their article or watching their video, etc. Do you use one or are you raw dogging the internet so that the content servers can harvest your data which they sell to serve you targeted ads?
I feel like, in the long run, this is going to be a good thing.
Hopefully:
Consumers will realise the problems with streaming platforms and those who pirate will realise the importance of supporting the studios they like.
Then there will be less people using the streaming services and more people buying copies directly from the studio.All that remains is studios using a service that P2Ps directly to the customer’s computer, bypassing all the wasted Blu-ray plastics.
I am going to, once again, give the example of Steam game soundtracks, which I can keep wherever I want and listen to, using whichever software I want.
Not to mention, it’s not theft because the original is still intact.
If I go steal a car, I’m taking the physical item and depriving the owner of said item.
If I download a movie, the movie is still there, it has been copied at best, not “stolen.”
It’s like watching a baseball game from the fence, sure you didn’t pay for the ticket, but you’re not occupying a seat so that someone else can’t pay to use it.
If I download a movie, it doesn’t take it off netflix so nobody else can enjoy it.
Okay so its forgery? Who gives a fuck, its all a type of stealing shit.
Not the gotcha you think it is. They said competitors, piracy makes them use your own product and not pay you for it.
Would a kid buy photoshop if they had to? Probably not. Would a sketchy company? Yup.
Would a sketchy company? Yup.
Completely irrellevant to the discussion and nice ragebait, but whatever.
I don’t see how it is. A kid that can’t afford to buy photoshop won’t buy it any more than a sketchy company would, just like how facebook much rather steal material than pay their way for it. The difference obviously being that the sketch company might very well have the capital to pay their way, they’re just used to get away with it.
The point you are missing is the “had to”.
The sketchy company didn’t have to pay the creators for it because it was available via different means.
They would have had to, if they couldn’t find it otherwise.Of course, in that case, they would have “borrowed” it from libraries and such, but then again, the premise is that they had to, which is not being fulfilled in your example.
Tell that to all of the monopolies that have totally captured a market segment.
Inkscape is good but it can’t replace illustrator, especially for the needs of someone willing to pay $1000/year for it
Maybe the affinity suite is more appropriate (ROI in just 2 months of adobe subscription)
It seems just fitting that he wears a hat that you need bezier curves to draw perfectly with vector graphics!
Lost dollars because of free software and lost dollars because of piracy are both imaginary numbers.
Thank you Martin and Inkscape-team!
FYI, their Mastodon account is here.
Ive used both inskape and illustrator and inkscape is better and has been better ux wise since day 1 for me.
He has a Samson Meteor microphone. Same as mine. He is cool in my book :D
I have the same shityy little speakers too, good for the price point though
those dollars were not adobe’s to lose but users’ to save
This is the heart of the matter. You can’t lose what you never had.
I disagree with that framing, someone not buying your shit is not the same as you losing money. Inkscape saved millions for graphic designers, which is very different. Adobe was not entitled to that money, you can’t lose something that was never yours.
Subtle distinction, but actually pretty huge. I agree with you. Companies also use this to say that pirating is stealing, when they never had the business in the first place.
Yeah. If piracy wasn’t an option, I just wouldn’t play those games.
So many games I have pirated that I have yet to play because there aren’t enough hours in the day and I don’t want to spend them all gaming.
All the money you give these corporations will be used against you someday.
Exactly. I’m pirating because I can’t afford to pay hundreds of dollars each month to watch all the movies and shows that I do. If I didn’t have the opportunity to pirate, I still wouldn’t afford it legitimately…
So close.
You should be pirating even if you can afford it because pirating is a tool to help reduce the disparity in wealth.
It’s also a great way to demo games and other software if you can afford it before you waste money on something that has no value to you. This is especially useful when you’re on a tight budget.
Just put in your credit card for the 7 day trial! Totally easy to cancel, pinky promise
And the 7-day free trian totally will not become a 2 year subscription which costs more to cancel than keep, and the price will not be 3x the sticker price had you just gotten to the “buy” option. We’re a legit business!
“I bought a lottery ticket and didn’t win. I lost 50 millions dollars!”
- adobe
You are right, of course, but I personally draw a great of pleasure from imaging the CEO of Adobe screaming, “CURSE YOU MARTIN OWENS!!!”
I had exactly 0 intention of ever buying anything from Adobe.
Inkscape gave me an alternative to the high seas. And it happens to do everything I need it to, although it’s way more powerful than the simple vector graphics conversions I use it for.
10/10, Adobe never lost money from me getting Inkscape. They lost the game before they knew I was a player.
I was prepared to scold you for being pedantic, but upon further reflection, I’ve concluded that you are 100% correct, and your point is germane to the conversation at hand, so you get an upvote instead.
Companies talk about lesser earnings as losses all the time.
And they’re wrong all the time
Certainly!
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I worked for a company that made MIDI sequencers. Had been making them for decades before I got there, and still making them long after I left.
One of the first products I worked on, the marketing team decided to put on the box, “World’s first ever MIDI sequencer” 😆
We almost need a new series called, “Companies Say the Darndest Things” that picks up after the original. I’m sure a lot of the kids in the original show are running these companies now.
I agree. I would never have bought Adobe, I would have not the little bit of vector drawing I have done.
I’m grateful for InkScape, but I wouldn’t have bought or downloaded anything otherwise, so I neither saved nor did Adobe lose.
Right, it’s akin to saying he stole that money from Adobe the same way the media companies imply that poor people making digital copies of music and movies they wouldn’t be able to afford otherwise is theft.
Thank you.
I’m not a pro but do some shit from time to time. Between Inkscape and Gimp I never needed anything else for images. If only Gimp had better tools for animated gifs… still serviceable tho haven’t tried the new Gimp yet.
But GIMP can be improved whenever you wish, Adobe cannot
Yes that’s true glaring difference between wanting to help others and wanting to rip money.
