• onlinepersona@programming.dev
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    11 hours ago

    I would like to remind you that you are arguing for a monopolist. I’d agree with you if it were for a startup or mid-sized company that had lots of competition and was providing a good product being abused by competitors or users. But Github has a quasi-monopoly, is owned by a monopolist that is part of the reason other websites are being bombarded by requests (aka, they are part of the problem), and you are sitting here arguing that more people should join the monopoly because of an issue they created.

    Can you see the flaws in reasoning in your statements?

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      10 hours ago

      No. I cannot find the flaws in my reasoning. Because you are not attacking my reasoning, you are saying that i am on the side of the bad people, and the bad people are bad, and you are opposed to the bad people, therefore you are right.

      The world is more than black or white. GitHub rate-limiting non-logged-in users makes sense, and is the expected result in the age of web scrapping LLM training.

      Yes, the parent company of GitHub also does web scrapped for the purpose of training LLMs. I don’t see what that has to do with defending themselves from other scrappers.

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        10 hours ago

        Company creates problem. Requires users to change because of created problem. You defend company creating problem.

        That’s the logical flaw.

        If you see no flaws in defending a monopolist, well, you cannot be helped then.

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          4 hours ago

          I don’t think Microsoft invented scrapping. Or LLM training.

          Also, GitHub doesn’t have an issue with Microsoft scraping its data. They can just directly access whatever data they want. And rate-limiting non logged in accounts won’t affect Microsoft’s LLM training at all.

          I’m not defending a monopolist because of monopolist actions. First of all because GitHub doesn’t have any kind of monopoly. There are plenty of git forges. And second of all. How does this make their position on the market stronger? If anything, it makes it weaker.