Also noteworthy that not only are PS5 sales behind PS4, but the PlayStation’s competition has almost entirely disappeared, and that hasn’t resulted in more PlayStations sold.

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    A certified refurbished ps5 can be had right at this moment for $399, $450 new. I game on PC for many other reasons but the performance for value is pretty amazing on the ps5

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      I agree. I was a console guy until this past weekend. My series S was money well spent, like my PS4 before it!

      However, I have a way bigger library now with cheaper games (also hundreds of free ones because I share a family library with other big gamers on Steam), it plays and looks better, and in 5+ years I’ll still be rocking AAA games long after the PS5 has sunset.

      I am actually a big defender of console gaming. It has a place and can be a very affordable option, especially when Nvidia cards are literally thousands of dollars. But PC gaming is often more economical in the long run if you throw down more upfront and do your research.

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        Same, yeah I mean once you’re established the actual cost of games on steam is ludicrously small depending on your habits. I’m pretty much locked-in to pc gaming simply for the love of indie titles that more often than not do not get published to consoles. Lots of those games are just straight up free

        We also have to consider the value the computer itself serves beyond just gaming. If you’re gonna get a $500 ps5 and you’re already going for an $800-$1200 computer, well hey. You could really get the best of both worlds without affecting the budget. Probably could even save money

        But I think there’s also a big group that isn’t in that situation. I know plenty of people who rock like a chromebook and the cheapest xbox. Or people who only play like NBA 2k or something. Or people who play 1-2 big titles a year when they get caught in the hype train, and can enjoy them at 4k60fps for the much lower upfront cost

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      You can also buy a used PC or laptop or CPU/GPU/…, buying them new when you want good performance for value is nonsense.

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        Certainly, but we’d then have to compare with the used ps5 market, which dips well below $300.

        Can a used pc or a build with used components be had with comparable performance to ps5? Even with a much larger budget of say, $800?

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          I can’t imagine finding a used PS5 in decent condition for sub-$300 man. That’s a bit far fetched. That’s “buddy who doesn’t need it did me a solid” pricing. I say this as someone who absolutely considers consoles an (often) economical choice. Cheapest I’m seeing is a digital with no controller “for parts or as is” on eBay for $225.

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            Why not? Like I said the certified refurbished directly from Sony is $399. Plenty of listings up right now for $285-330

            But even if we compare new consoles to used PCs I think the conclusion is the same

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              Show me those listings lol I’ll buy one right now. And “well below” $300 is not $285-$330 dude. I could see $300-$325 refurbished but sub-$300? Rare rare find. Certainly not from a reputable vendor, that’s buying from an individual if you can even find that.

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                And “well below” $300 is not $285-$330

                You’re equivocating. In that instance I am responding directly to your claim that it’s far fetched to find a used one around the $300 point.

                You’ll notice when you quoted me you also excluded the word “dips”. It’s dishonest for you frame my position as misrepresentative of the market by presenting my numbers without the couching I presented them with.

                And why do you want to quibble over $50 when it doesn’t affect the discussion at all? Let’s just work with the higher prices, or even the brand new prices for that matter

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                  I didn’t say that man. I think this is also needlessly escalating. Yes consoles are often the more economical choice, no I do not think the prices you are saying you can find refurbished digital PS5’s at are realistic, especially not with a controller. But ultimately none of this is that high stakes. Agree to disagree.

                  That being said if you do have a $285-$330 refurbished PS5 listing you know about I genuinely want to see it for my own purchase lol

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                    But ultimately none of this is that high stakes

                    Been saying that for four comments now lol

                    Yes consoles are often the more economical choice

                    This right here is the main idea, yeah, even when looking at the used market for PC components. Glad we found our way back, and even ended up in complete agreement at the end

                    As for the help you requested sifting through listings, used and refurbished are different things, you should know. Refurbished direct from Sony is $400, looks like gamestop will do it for $370. This sets a hard cap on used prices, so you’ll notice all the used listings (that actually sell) are below that.

                    You should also know they have websites for you to track what actually sells, and not just the listings that are left standing for a while because the price is mediocre. Worth checking that out so you know where to watch, and have a good chance of getting a good price when it appears. Best of luck to you