https://archive.is/FKuhi (reuters)
https://archive.is/MIdNc (afp)
Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng met for about eight hours with U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and U.S. Trade Representative Jamieson Greer in Geneva in their first face-to-face meeting since the world’s two largest economies heaped tariffs well above 100% on each other’s goods.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Friday that an 80% tariff on Chinese goods “seems right”, suggesting for the first time a specific alternative to the 145% levies he has imposed on Chinese imports.
Neither side made any statements about the substance of the discussions nor signaled any progress towards reducing crushing tariffs as meetings at the residence of Switzerland’s ambassador to the U.N. concluded at about 8 p.m. local time. (1800 GMT)
The discussions are expected to restart on Sunday in the Swiss city, according to an individual familiar with the talks, who was not authorized to speak publicly.
The 80% number is just something that Trump posted on his social media early on Friday morning, before any meeting ever happened.
UPDATE Trump posted on truthsocial, 1 hour ago. He describes the meeting with the phrases “total reset” and “great progress”. I won’t believe this until I hear the perspective from China’s government.
What argument are you making exactly? There are a lot of members of the CPC therefore it is definitely communist and couldn’t be infiltrated by liberals? It’s not exactly unheard of in history that a communist party would be infiltrated by nationalists and/or liberals.
I would definitely not like that to happen to China but it’s not outside the realm of possibility. Also xiaohongshu seems way more knowledgeable about recent Chinese history than you, you moan about sources yet you haven’t posted any yourself.
Claiming that the CPC abandoned communism and has been taken over by neoliberals is a very bold claim, and you shouldn’t accept it without some sources.
I can provide some alternates, but I don’t know what basis XHS is claiming that on. Is it the standard ultraleft position that the “reform and opening up” was a liberalization? If that’s the case here are some on that:
For a longer text on why the PRC is still absolutely communist, and communist thinking drives the party, I recommend Jin Huiming - Marxism and Socialism with chinese characteristics. Or any of the chinese marxist journals from the academy of marxism which go through what the current difficulties and focus points.
I don’t agree with the claim that it has been completely subverted by liberals, but there does seem to be a strong liberal current within the CPC.
Why hasn’t the CPC in the current global situation move more strongly towards socialism and liberation of Global South countries? The idea of a Chinese “Marshall plan” that Xiaohongshu outlined seems like a reasonable step, do you have any information about that actual plans of the CPC?
I’d also like to say that its extremely sus that XHS goes after defenders of the PRC, jumping to arguments of authority that (since we must not live in China, or must not be Chinese, we don’t know how liberal/bad it is!). XHS talks down to anyone who dares defend the socialist character of the CPC. This is exactly the strategy that we’d expect from an intelligence or influence op, to claim indigeneity to a country that they then demonize on any ground.
The belt and road initiative is that plan. The PRC has infrastructure and development partnerships from countries in Southern Europe, Asia, Latin America, and Africa.
https://qutnyti.wordpress.com/2018/07/16/belt-road-initiative-an-anti-thesis-of-colonialism/
Wikipedia I know, but this is a good outline: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_projects_of_the_Belt_and_Road_Initiative
I encourage you to ask for sources, don’t take anything on faith, especially long-winded diatribes filled with unsourced stats from people claiming that AES countries abandoned socialism. The fact that so many people upvotee their posts (claiming that the PRC is run by liberals now), without a single person questioning it, is shameful.
I don’t really see XHS’s posts as doomerist as you do, just really opinionated and skeptical of current leadership, they even acknowledge Xi’s presidency is a shift back towards marxism. I’m not dying on any hills here since I’m not all that informed (and I really hope you’re right about this since I don’t want to see the CPC fall) but honestly you’re coming off as way too combative.
Calling random people feds is kinda lame too tbh.
Hello fellow leftists! I’m a Cuban from Cuba! Here’s why Cuba has abandoned socialism, and what it needs to do to fix it!
insert 10 paragraphs of unsourced statistics
Everyone nods in agreement
I stubbed my toe yesterday, must have been fed work too. Jesus your ego is huge.
I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
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