Germans have an increasingly negative view of Israel 60 years after the establishment of bilateral diplomatic relations, said a new survey released by the Bertelsmann Foundation on Friday
The report pointed to a significant change in the mood of Germans towards Israel over the past four years.
Back in 2021, 46% of German citizens surveyed had a positive attitude towards Israel. Meanwhile, only 36% have a positive opinion of Israel, while 38% rate the Jewish state negatively.
The German government has been one of the strongest supporters of Israel but has come under growing public pressure as a result of Israel’s brutal military campaign in Gaza.
Pretty sad that it’s taken this long and that it seems like the lesson they learnt from WW2 wasn’t “the subjugation and cleansing of an entire group of people is bad” but rather “never under any circumstances criticize Israel”.
Guess who else is increasingly getting critical of this terrible regime
About fucking time. Although the German media is still very much pro Israel. I thought Germany changed after World War 2, but their media is still producing pro nazi zionist propaganda, dehumanizing Palestinians and hiding genocide and other crimes against humanity. What the actual fuck, Deutschland!
Germany did not change after WWII, Nazi higher ups got positions in West German government and as leaders in NATO.
Disgusted by Germany’s support of another genocide, seems they cant help but get involved in them even if they are not carrying them out personally.
Abhorrent behaviour that shows that learning from your past was bullshit, only something to be proud of.
And because the German state has conflated anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism so completely, they will zero in on this, further crack down on Muslims and leftists and completely miss actual rising anti-Semitism on the Right, that actually threatens German jews. Worse still, they have created the discursive infrastructure for the anti-Semitic wackos to siphon away more ideologically susceptible people into actual dangerous anti-Semitic organizing and sympathizing. They created the conveyor belt that’s rationalizes the “well if it’s antisemitic to oppose genocide then I am one too” zero sum game.
In short, the German state killed nuance, and German jews will suffer.
Germany is enabling this Holocaust. Fuck Germany.
While Palestinians are being targeted and there is a meticulously calculated campaign for them to suffer horribly, I would not call it Holocaust-like. That is not to spare the Israeli government, it that government were in the critical situation Germany was in 1942, it would have been also rounding up Palestinians (and whoever else mentioned compassion for them) in the hundreds of thousands and killing it in the spot. But we are not there yet… Israelś moral is more like what Germany was in 1940… killing tons of people and expanding in land, delusional of the world sentiment and fairly optimistic on the final outcome so no need to speed up the massacres just yet.
If the rumors are right that Trump will recognize Palestine next week (we have to see the conditions and what borders), but in any case give any credit to Palestinians… I wonder what Germany and France will say would they go down with Israelś government. Israel, as we know it, won´t survive. It won´t be the poor Palestinians, nor Iran or Egypt… it will be their own population as many will burst out of their delusional bubbles and poke the rest. Germany, unless correcting its path now, will end up the same.
Why in hell would trump do that. He might be using that rumour to pressure bibi to further his own agenda but not in a million years would he recognize Palestine
What goes in Trumps mind is a mystery… there may be even nothing at all! What we know is he care about money, fame and recognition. If he only was aware of the global sentiment toward him would be of all of that if he really became the person bringing a true change for Palestine and global peace… but he is really unaware of public sentiment beyond the US (that he knows better than most politicians here). For instance, I believe that when he said to Palestinians to move out, in his little mind he really thinks Palestinians lives will improve dramatically without any awareness that this is technically genocide.
Recognizing Palestine would not bring him money (which is by far the most important of those three). And also it would not give him recognition from the people he cares about
What goes in Trumps mind is a mystery
No, not really. He’s a pretty predictable privleged, sociopathic narcissist who has displayed for decades that he has limited cognitive faculties as well as that he is literally a big fan of Hitler, along with being a literal rapist.
He does not care about Palestinians or Ukrainians. Nor does he care about genocide - to him, it’s just another way of illegally (he’s never felt that laws or rules of society at large apply to him) obtaining more land and power over others.
You seem to be treading very close to apologia for a known fascist.
@edel @europe @geneva_convenience praying they are true, but not likely…
I think it is true, but since the leaks (I have a feeling Israel is behind it), the pressure that Trump will be facing till next week to water it down will be horrendous. I already saw members of his administration trying to reassure Israel, but it is unequivocal that Trump is having a change of heart, probably since Netanyahu’s last visit. Now, like in his previous administration that he ordered the exit Afghanistan and scale down from Syria, the establishment completely disobeyed, dragged their feat or simply followed some one’s else orders. Even presidents, with thousands high ranking and autonomous working underneath them, it is very easy to work against the President and even go unnoticed doing so… Once could see this as a safeguard, but it is not in this case.
Trump also did a tough man talk for Zelensky and then turned around after he got his mineral deal.
It is very much possible that Trump is simply trying to get some concessions out of Israel. Unlike the most politicians he is not afraid of being portrayed as the bad guy by his allies when he wants concessions. Because he thinks that world politics is somehow similar to real estate and the long term reputation of America does not matter.
Good point!
Good.
Pretty sure it’s more then just Germans …
It’s like the frog and the boiling water thing, but the pot is melting, the house is on fire and the frog just now realizes it was supposed to be boiled…
The German government would be the last to acknowledge this shift, long after the tide has turned for the vast majority of Germans.
Waiting until the genocide is complete to grow a conscience? A lot of good that does the people of Palestine.
