• Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee
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      Christ, imagine if he really was set up after all this?

      Or that the charges don’t stick?

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        People have been saying since he was announced as a suspect that he didn’t look like the shooter that appeared on the cameras. He sort of looks like him but it’s really not that clear cut that it’s definitely him

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          Also it couldn’t have been Luigi, he has an alibi. We were hanging out that day.

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              yeah don’t you remember? you, me, Glimse@lemmy.world, and Luigi were all at your dad’s birthday party since the night before, we even helped get it set up.

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                How could he have planned a murder if we were so busy setting up the balloons and signs? That party took days of prep work.

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                  yeah fellas sorry i just kinda crashed immediately after the candles were blown out x.x; and Luigi worked even harder than I did, up and down the ladder hanging all the streamers… bro has such an eye for decorating though, right?!

                  hey btw themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works did your dad ever get around to enjoying that steakhouse giftcard we got him?

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                    Yeah man for sure he was planning on inviting Luigi because he’s been so helpful and such a friendly guy so it was cut short when he was arrested but we went and it was delicious

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          Even if he’s really the shooter, imagine if they cannot prove it’s him because it would showcase the immense dystopian surveillance tech everywhere in the US. So they had to pretend they got an anonymous call and plant evidence instead.

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              The good faith exception is such bullshit.

              I don’t get a good faith exception if I truly thought that the speed limit was actually 75 instead of 55, even if my phone and car told me that was the case.

              It doesn’t even make sense to me in a mental gymnastics way, like, just because I tried hard and was honest, doesn’t make a warrant any more or less valid.

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                don’t get a good faith exception if I truly thought that the speed limit was actually 75 instead of 55

                If you have a decent lawyer this is possible I’m pretty sure. Essentially the wealthy do get a good faith exception.

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                  There’s an income level that lets you do “weekend jail” on your fifth DUI.

                  If you are Sarah Stitt, wife of Oklahoma’s Governor, you won’t even get the DUI. Just stumble drunkenly out of that state vehicle (which you aren’t supposed to be using, but you’ve got the Republican princess pass), insist that you are married to the Governor, and they won’t even charge you!

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          If the defence can create enough doubt that the gun was his, I doubt they have a case otherwise.

          Especially considering the jury may well be quite sympathetic to him.

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            Tbf just because he had a gun on him doesn’t mean he was the shooter. I have a gun on me, am I the shooter Greg? Plenty people have guns, and it’s even legal to have a 3d printed gun, and even if he was concealed carrying without a permit, “so?”

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                Kinda, yeah if the barrel and striker matches up that’ll be tough to beat. That could be easily thwarted though by running a rough brush, or changing the barrel with another one, and changing the striker, and if he’s worth his salt he ditched those before he even left the city. And even a match isn’t necessarily 100% proof it’s the gun, just like 99.999% lol.

                Honestly, I do think it was him, personally. Just playing devils advocate.

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                  If he was as smart as you think, the gun would have been broken apart and the individual pieces dumped in a series of rubbish bins.

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                    Tbh, just changing those two parts, boom, different gun, and those parts are cheap. Swap those two, and dump those ideally in a body of water (well ideally two bodies of water), and also don’t have the manifesto with a list of possible other targets I heard he was caught with lol. Also should probably ditch the can, melt it if it’s pla, or maybe smash it real good.

                    But his can didn’t even have a booster so tbh my bet is he didn’t know any of this at all.

                    (Edit for the FBI and my lawyers: Do not try this at home. This is a crime. I do not advocate for these things, I’m speaking purely hypothetically.)

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              Having a 3D printed gun on you isn’t something most people do though, so it’s not a good look.

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                Depends where, in a few states they are illegal but in a good few more it’s actually 100% fine as long as you don’t also have drugs. Doubly so if: white. “Italian” (whether he is or not he’d pass in my area) is white enough. P80s are more common, but same concept.

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            Especially considering the jury may well be quite sympathetic to him.

            I think people on the internet vastly overestimate how sympathetic a jury will be.

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      He also allegedly had the manifesto with him, which makes no sense. Basically they just said “We randomly got a tip for this guy at mc donalds and he happened to have all possible pieces of evidence on him days after making a clean get away” mmm yeeah sure…

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        And ‘oh, by the way’, we botched the arrest and search and there are some real questions about chain of custody, the search itself, and the evidence. Then there’s the ease (edit: ‘eaves’) dropping on his privileged communication with his attorney… clown show over here.

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        My pragmatic theory:

        • He is the guy (I’m not saying it’s a bad thing)
        • The “anonymous tip” was rather “illegal surveillance/tech us plebs don’t know about”
        • Police found the gun and manifesto in NYC, and they planted it on him to ensure an easier conviction
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        And it would’ve been so much easier to plant the stuff at his house while he was being taken. Except that would have required a small amount of thinking.