cross-posted from: https://lemmy.wtf/post/20659375

Colleagues. I don’t feel like having to publish 20 disclaimers here to clarify exactly what I mean. People who want to understand my message will understand them. You should not look for too many “double-bottoms” or “hidden messages” in them. Do you have a problem with the “superficiality” of my post… so be it.

DETRUMPIFY YOURSELF Buy european products Travel european countries Vote pro european parties Defend european values Use european technology Use european opensource Invest in european companies

  • Homie@feddit.orgEnglish
    29·
    15 hours ago

    Open source should not know borders. Anybody who commits to open source (with one of the proper licenses) is a friend to me

    • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      11 hours ago

      This is a good point. I think it’s likely also that most of the OSS contributors would be anti trump anyhow. Even if not we shouldn’t be afraid of accidentally supporting something that tangentially spiritually touches an American. Ironically I think that fear would have to be labeled bigoted if we’re being honest.

  • Kackfresh@miscreants.party
    42·
    16 hours ago

    @chmod755

    Install ANY free and open source software. Even if it’s American, it breaks dependence on the tech oligarchs that Trump is building his empire with.

  • seeigel@feddit.orgEnglish
    24·
    16 hours ago

    No, don’t use Trump to create European patriotism. There is Africa, there is Asia and there are other countries in America.

    • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
      7·
      15 hours ago

      I don’t think it boils down to nationalism, either. This is the same thing Trump does, just with Europe. But I think the world is more nuanced. And it’s fine to be allied and trade with the rest of the world.

    • Gladaed@feddit.orgEnglish
      5·
      14 hours ago

      When faced with a foreign adversary people usually bond together with their peers. This is what created many nations national identity. Not all nationalism is always bad. Look at Ukraine. Is it truly bad that they have a national identity allowing them to resist the Russian aggression?

      • EmpiricalDicktaster@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        4·
        13 hours ago

        Borders are a mental construct. People should bond with their peers because they are human, not because of a national identity invented by those that constructed those borders for the purpose of division and for the purpose of making people not question why they are going into a war with other people at the whim of capital.

        Nationalism is an excuse, if it were not for nationalism then the effort to invade Ukraine would have long collapsed (or not even gotten the opportunity to begin at all) and the people would see that it is easier and more survivable to unite against the few people pulling the strings than to unite as one “pure” army against another “pure” army of relatively similar size in comparison.

        Nationalism will never work in our actual favor, it has been tried so many times and it will never work, it is so far detached from the truth. It is at best a necessary stepping stone when growing up in this system that one needs to move on from as soon as possible and not mistake for the truth.

        • Gladaed@feddit.orgEnglish
          1·
          12 hours ago

          Nationalism interested in Scotland is leaving Brexit and joining the EU. Nationalism without purpose is bad. Nationalism for economic advantage is bad. Nationalism against oppression is ok.

          • EmpiricalDicktaster@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            5·
            11 hours ago

            Nationalism does not help against oppression because you cannot use nationalism against capitalists as capitalism is not a nationality but the root cause of oppression itself.

            Nationalism is a tool for the owning class, that is not itself affected by the circumstances that enable the becoming of nationalists and is simultaneously shielded from the fallout of nationalism that inevitably ensues, to further division between us humans and to give people an incentive to go to war against their brothers and sisters for them in their stead, and to spill their blood over a made up symbol that has no actual meaning.

  • Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    101·
    15 hours ago

    How sad it is to see the world as a Trump/Europe dichotomy.

    Seriously, make this easier for yourself and just buy from anywhere that isn’t the USA or its golden child (Israel.)

    • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      15 hours ago

      I think it is fundamentally good to use this opportunity as a chance to break up existing monopolies (especially with regard to software products). Trump merely provides a motivation for this - with his impossible behavior, he has created some awareness for this long-standing problem.

      But yes, since the problem stems in fact from multinational corporations, the country in which these corporations have their headquarters does not necessarily play the decisive role - it should rather be about no longer buying products from these unscrupulous corporations.