• KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml
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    As a language learner I have some alternatives: Use HelloChinese for Chinese. And for flashcards you can use Anki where you can add your own flashcards. You can download flashcards made by others as well. There’s a great Chinese flashcard map I use, which also has sound. Quizlet is also good, but not as good as Anki, but it lets you see flashcards made by others more easily.

    And there are a ton of websites for each language that let you see the dictionary, grammar rules, and other stuff. Even for obscure languages like Greenlandic

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    11 hours ago

    Can somebody tell me a good app for learning japanese 🙏🏻? I do not want to support AI-slop

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      Renshuu! Entirely free, cross-platform, incredible functionality, very customizable, no third-party trackers, no ai (even the “support chat” is an actual dm to the developer).

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        Thanks. The app looks very cute. I will try it out right now. Any tips for english learners as i want to show my parents an alternative for when i cancel my subscription (Duolingo Family Plan).

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    They also used volunteer labor in the past for some language courses: https://duolingo.fandom.com/wiki/Incubator/Contributors

    And naturally turned it into a heavily monetized product at some point after (or during, I am not clear on the exact timeline from memory), as capitalists tend to do.

    Also, their “health system” is plain anti-learning (punishing of mistakes) and clearly there to browbeat you into subscribing.

    And this last part I will be honest is pretty heavily just my opinion on them and my experiences with language learning apps as a whole but: The only good thing they have going for them is marketing. One of the most overrated language learning apps there is, which is saying something because the competition is pretty dismal. There are numerous apps that try to imitate Duolingo in UI and design, like how MMOs imitated World of Warcraft, instead of doing their own thing. And the end result is they are worse for it and Duolingo sets a bad standard. What Duolingo did right was gamifying learning, which works well for some people, in some contexts (I am one of them). But how you go about gamifying learning could be very broad and it is criminally under-explored in favor of chasing Duolingo popularity; throwing achievement systems, leaderboards, and “baby’s first app” style aesthetic design with a cutesy mascot at the problem, instead of thinking outside the box. Mascot designs that can range from actually cute to nauseatingly trying too hard, like someone got a bit confused about what cuteness is.

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    I quit duolingo because of this. I’d been using it for German and Spanish, and then AI crap turned up in app. I dumped the app soon after.