I didn’t think I could hate Facebook and the rich techbros any more than I already do, but holy shit, this book is making want to start learning how to build guillotines.

It also does a great job on showing how power and wealth just make people into sociopathic simulacra of humanity.

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    Fuck me man. I hate to say it, I’ve always leaned pacifist, but the more I learn about the neoliberal corporcratic system we live in, the more I think guillotines might be the only way out.

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      Pacifism is only effective if you’re willing to violently defend it. Otherwise you’re just a self entitled pushover

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    You could build all the guillotines you want, you won’t be able to change human nature. Until we can force people out of the validation casino that is social media, the Tech world or the next vampiric capitalistic cliche will just step in.

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      Human nature is flexibility and empathy . We can totally change how humans act by having a different system that doesn’t promote sociopathy

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        having a different system that doesn’t promote sociopathy

        Do you believe this can be brought about? If so, how?

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            Sorry I don’t understand any of what you said. Could you rephrase in simple terms?

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                Maybe this will help

                OK, read that, seems pretty simple to me.

                How do you propose preconfiguring in a way that doesn’t promote sociopathy? To quote the page you linked to:

                Prefigurative communities often struggle with financial sustainability, external pressures such as state repression and conflictual internal dynamics, such as tension between those who want to do prefiguration and those who want to engage with existing power structures.

                What is the difference in kind between “prefigurative communities” and the general wider society we have now, that means the base desire for social status and greed (“sociopathy”) will not be promoted? How do you propose eliminating the “conflictual internal dynamics” that arise from those desires? The page you linked gives no information about that.

                It seems to me that the “conflictual internal dynamics” are simply a reflection of the conflict inherent in all human social groups, at all levels. In other words, that “prefigurative communities” suffer from the same problems as wider society and that there is, in fact, no difference in kind between them. Therefore, “prefigurative communities” will necessarily always fail to change wider society because the flawed, base people comprising those communities are no different from the flawed, base people comprising wider society.

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                  The opposite really, practical cases show that when such groups are created they are unbelievable stable and don’t collapse outside of external pressure (i.e. capitalist reaction to destroy them).

                  What is the difference in kind between “prefigurative communities” and the general wider society we have now, that means the base desire for social status and greed (“sociopathy”) will not be promoted? How do you propose eliminating the “conflictual internal dynamics” that arise from those desires?

                  Very simply that there is no “reward” to be had for asocial behavior. When there is no hierarchical power or wealth accumulation to be had, acting in a way that alienates those around you doesn’t provide any benefits.

                  The page you linked gives no information about that.

                  You seem to have a lot of questions about anarchism. Perhaps you should read an anarchist FAQ which exists is precicely for this purpose? Unfortunately, I cannot keep elaborating deeper and deeper.

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        That’s just not the case. Humans engage in social contracts because they have a benefit to themselves. If acting selfishly causes more gain than acting socially, people overwhelmingly act selfishly. It’s one of the reasons the original Dark Sector in The Division horrified psychologists.