This is why the right are called reactionaries. This guy doesn’t wanna make music. He wants to oppose the left.
That is the ideology. There is no through line in conservative thought besides opposition to emancipotory movements. Small government, abortion, guns, religion, tradition, and the family are not values, but ramparts and trenches in the war with the left.
“they don’t want to win, they just want you to lose”
Best summary of reactionary ideologies
Agreed. Those “values” they pretend to uphold are not the core of the beliefs though. The core of it is white supremacy and patriarchy. Capitalism and Liberal democracy do a good job of maintaining and masking these ideologies. The gial is maintaining those hierarchies. Literally supporting the machine.
Those “values” in many cases come from them not realizing that they actually agree with the left on a lot of stuff but they just want a single man to do it for them instead of trusting the collective.
Ex: Most of Trump’s electors don’t want to lose their social security, but they don’t trust the system to not allow abuse to happen, so they actually believe in something that is fundamentally a socialist measure, they just want Trump to tell them he’ll be the one making sure that fraud doesn’t happen (when in reality he’s going to cut it for most).
“what the left and globalists have done”
Am I crazy or have conservatives been harping on “free trade” my entire life?
Nobody on the right who understands anything says that shit in good faith
Can’t wait to see their set with such time honoured bangers as
- Know Your Neighbour
- Suburban Rebellion
- Go To Sleep
- Tarrifs In The Name Of
- Convicted Fellons On Parade
- People Of The Mar-a-Lago
- RussiaNow
- Freedom Radio
- Preach
- New Boomer Homes
And many many more.
Killing in the Name will still be titled the same but with different lyrics “Thank you, I’ll do what you tell me!”
‘Some of those who burn crosses, get bonuses from bosses!’
Nazis on Parade
Great stuff. New Boomer Homes pairing seamlessly with Voice of the Most Vocal.
The world is a global capitalist system and Russia is not our enemy. The liberals are lying to you. But yet, what’s the difference between the United States and Russia really? We’re all ran by oligarchs, and oligarchs are the byproduct of capitalism. So it’s like the pot calling the kettle black. This is why we continue voting for the Neo-liberal party, which is right-wing ideology, which is in the benefit of the capitalist class, and this is why nothing changes. There’s a possibility there’ll be a fake internal revolution inside of the Democratic Party, but it’s just like when companies do a rebranding. Americans are very misinformed and I question if they have any real reading comprehension, or maybe they’re just so self-interested and lazy. I don’t know really. It could be a collection of things. Self-awareness requires you to examine yourself and the world around you and to be honest with yourself. Going and venturing into the dark alleys of reality. So now, we are no longer focusing on soft power and we’re headed towards hot war. You might not like Trump, but he’s just a continuation of the so-called deep state. The man just makes decisions off papers that are handed to him. He is not an intellectual genius nor does he know anything about world history or other cultures. Biden is also an illiterate self-absorbed jackass. And what comes after that is either some variation of the two or either or. Regardless, Justice is always served, just not in your benefit and in your time. Thank God all men die.
rage on behalf of the machine
You can’t make music when you are that tone-deaf
I’ve noticed every conservative song can’t quite keep their lack of skills for symbolism for the whole song. The closest they ever came was the dude singing about the rich men north of richmond, but even then, he had to shit on poor people in poor health. Truly a man of the people.
That song isn’t written from the perspective you think it is. Oliver Anthony came out staunchly against the hard right who tried to take his song as a rallying cry against welfare recipients.
He is saying that we are misappropriating funds that could supply healthy foods to more people. Instead, some are abusing the system to become more unhealthy. The reason thst they get this unhealthy food is (from the song’s perspective) because the country doesn’t do anything to support mental health and this is their chosen outlet.
“Lord we’ve got folks in the street who aint got nothing to eat And the obese milkin’ welfare If your five foot three and three hundred pounds Taxes ought to not pay for your bags of fudge rounds Young men are putting themselves 6 feet in the ground Because all this damn country does is keep kicking them down”
I am very dubious of Oliver Anthony’s attempts to retcon his words. If he didn’t come out and try to gaslight us into thinking it’s about how government food stamps aren’t enough to eat healthy or pigeonholing mental health in there then I’d be more amicable to his childish over simplifications and both-sidisms. It’s fine if you don’t know about politics, but when you lie about your lyrics, your narratives inherently take on new meanings. The lyrics were not symbolic enough to be misinterpreted. He said the government ought not pay for your unhealthy food choices… He meandered about other bullshit in the lyrics, but I guess he forgot to mention the actual thing he was talking about.
true i mean, how would he know what the songs about.
It’s a classic case of, “I made this song for a small audience, and now it has a big audience.” Resulting in wanting to remove things that aren’t acceptable to the big audience, even if they’re obvious. I feel like the right way to handle it was to show regret rather than pretend it’s something else.
IDK what this dude has in his heart, but he thinks about wealth, power, and corruption geographically. I can’t say he is a confederate, but I can say he thinks like one.
He’s singing about lived experience in the South. Did you expect him to address the whole nation or globe? As Stephen King often says, write about what you know.
Replying to my own reply.
“I mean, we are the melting pot of the world, and that’s what makes us strong, is our diversity, and we need to learn to harness that and appreciate it, and not use it as a political tool to keep everyone separate from each other you know?”
I’m curious what other conservative songs are out there. I’m trying to think of a banger that’s even remotely conservative/political but I’m coming up blank.
Not that any of it is a banger, but kid rock and lil pump come to mind.
As they might be giants put it: “The Fascists have the outfits But I don’t care for the outfits What I care about is music And the Communists have the music”
I see, yeah I don’t listen to dipshit rock and I don’t think I’ve heard of lil pump.
Maybe I was the wrong person to ask that question lmao.
You could argue “Brought to your courtesy of the red white and blue” song after 911 was conservative. It’s still devoid of symbolism except for patriotic slop everyone understands
There’s this compilation of songs from the Cold War that are all about nuclear paranoia and anti-Communist fervor, and there are a few bangers in there, like Mr. Krushchev. More recent than 60+ years old? You got me.
There was a list floating around (before Trump) of songs that, with sufficiently motivated reasoning, could be claimed for conservatism. I don’t remember the entirety of it, but I recall The Beatles’ “Taxman”, and the reasoning that taxes are bad, being a representative example.
Ah yes, famed conservative musician George Harrison wrote that song. /s lol
Tom McDonald (?) is an awful rightwing rapper. No bangers to be found but he’s got a lot of songs (and I recommend none of them)
Alabama ni?
“Its like RATM but we’re all bootlicking skinheads.”
Suck the machine’s wingdangdoodle
Band name: The Machine
Can’t you see, you’re not making the right better, you’re just making rock and roll worse!
That boy ain’t right.
The fact that they’d want to make a “Rage Against the Machine” band based off of political views means they missed the idea of “Rage Against the Machine” entirely.
“What ‘machine’ did you think they were raging against? A lawnmower?”
Take the flower back!
No, it’s definitely a printer. Go print off some RATM lyrics and tell me I’m wrong.
(How the heck was the library printer out of whack last time I went to use it? Those things used to be ridiculously reliable.)
Most left/social/minority/lower-class/marginalized music and bands developed because they come from a lot of oppression and dispossession from authority and powerful wealthy groups that seek to hold them down.
Rap and hip-hop was born out of the black US ghettos from young people who were fed up with the poverty and drugs made worse (and sometimes caused) by government and authority and protected by the police. Rock, metal, alternative, grunge were all born out of young people wanting to break away from the modern straight uptight conservative moralistic world everyone was forced or made to feel to take part in. New wave and pop were born out of young people who just wanted to stand out and be heard and in the 80s used it as a vehicle for political messages (especially about constant danger of nuclear armageddon during the Cold War era)
I’m sure there are angry anxious young men and women from wealthy backgrounds who feel that their freedoms are being taken away … but they will always be completely outnumbered by the millions and billions of poor and near poor people who look at them as the enemy.
They are never creative. They don’t have to be. Daddy takes care of everything.
I enjoy how much of a struggle everyone in the comments is having to think of a single decent conservative rock band, let alone one like RatM. If you understand people attracted to authortarianism, it makes sense; they prefer simple over nuanced, they tend to be more likely to conform, etc, it’s quite obvious that their values run contrary to art.
That said, conservative rock bands do exist, even if their songs aren’t. They just aren’t generally artistic or thought provoking. Smash Mouth came to mind (they shilled for Bush back in the day) and All Star is still played on the radio. I’d bet if you dug around, you’d probably find more of those 90s pop rock folks orient right.
Although even trying to think of annoying 90s songs led me down a weird rabbit hole. Like, you know that song “Two Princes” by Spin Doctors? Turns out one Spin Doctor is a major atheist activist. So who knows?
Smashmouth is an odd one. Cause their songs are oddly… libertarian? Maybe? But every now and then a pretty ignorant lyrics slips through and it’s like “what’s going on here?”.
Walking on the sun is a pretty good one. Literally saying, “The government sucks, fight back, youve done it before and deserve praise for it.”. And then the last verse is criticizing presumably black neighborhoods for falling into the crack epidemic.
Yeah, and I don’t know where they stand now or if they were all on board with right wing. I know the lead died recently, though. Looking is up, he moved to Idaho, which is kind of what a lot of libertarian Californians do in retirement, lol.
Of note, they had already distanced themselves from Steve Harwell (lead vocal) for being a giant shithead and uncontrollable alcoholic.
That’s “Rage for the Machine”
